From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 11 16:07:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A72106564A for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE188FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5so4300750gyd.13 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:07:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zjf5UarpY6Qb+QVqUguGTyPKjSQ8MDVP/2GUd9IDbYs=; b=th59RvogWfHnMDxjoqqV47JGu139Rvr8x2mdQL/EYkF01yyPkMXOg/q0+x5nOb/Krh ucpaUDQZD1HWcWj4rsVX1yZb8MIhLEOhY+REu2YP7NDKS8Y72H/a6hNxZY8pc0ZTTUuQ iMnpqd3OPIDHGOzEef6EcNkmfnq2K28aq/QcE= Received: by 10.50.6.202 with SMTP id d10mr13270230iga.31.1321027673206; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:07:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.11.140 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:07:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111111080951.5a391e3a@scorpio> References: <20111109124325.17efc0d1.stas@deglitch.com> <20111109222435.GD92221@azathoth.lan> <20111110110637.GA3514@hades.panopticon> <4EBCC587.10701@FreeBSD.org> <20111111100708.GA24126@hades.panopticon> <20111111080951.5a391e3a@scorpio> From: Chris Rees Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:07:21 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jLCc5yonLi9bANDWMQqlFGVsHKk Message-ID: To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Recent ports removal X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:07:54 -0000 On 11 November 2011 13:09, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:07:08 +0400 > Dmitry Marakasov articulated: > >> * Martin Wilke (miwi@FreeBSD.org) wrote: >> >> > >> They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything >> > >> about those, that is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The >> > >> "not used anymore" mean not used in >> > > Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken, >> > > it's useable, you may not remove it, period. >> > > >> > >> the portstree (ie no more depended on). >> > > Most of the portstree is leaf ports, now what? >> > > >> > >> If someone really needs it, he can: >> > > What we need is to not have to do extra work and to not have >> > > extra noise on the maillist because someone does unneeded things. >> > > I really don't want to call that vandalism. >> > > >> > You can't only put in u have also to put out. >> >> Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it. > > That reality might come sooner than you think but for an entirely > different reason. > > http://www.technograte.com/2011/05/18/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/ > > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/ > Hm. The real problem of course is that although addport is written in Perl, rmport is written in sh; thus making it much more convenient to use on a machine without Perl. Possible solutions: - Reimport Perl to base - Rewrite addport to sh (though that would undo a lot of recent work :/) - Rewrite rmport in perl? This way we could make a better equilibrium -- a committer looking to fiddle a category Makefile would no longer be forced to choose between installing Perl and removing a port, which would remove the incentive to remove rather than add. Chris