From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 22:09:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC0B87B for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbergstrom@pathscale.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f43.google.com (mail-pb0-f43.google.com [209.85.160.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377E318E3 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id md12so3619126pbc.30 for ; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=5WPoTh1XwPx89kr5KC/2BkpO0h1QtPJNwYCnUpW6KJE=; b=oP3eJuyIpV4s51bXARsJG9N+tPnugo+qcgN97i8+CySZK2oEOjEAdxasapXcMlniI0 m75iSF/qKWbdXf/j/EIA0lguFoN7hMN9rzGdMfdY9j7KD/vQGpO1ntdJRTspAS+xteBO KEGOzpdW/Olg/Q8MO5BAJQ4slKU/GW3/snSMkgvGIVQLEkxoWW+KyUCU1wjjOTJxTzsG F8tMdRV0+x5Ac8NcwKYGofJm1rILCQDcHLVe6JU1rzQnEwYDJGIu1Ai8AIoiAPESpAha PKGVszpArEnsttxykNBoR9VEoumcuXMu0KQniKLDr0bXqyChF/ye5Jezv1P85GQHoqpr 4iwg== X-Received: by 10.68.170.37 with SMTP id aj5mr13871516pbc.79.1373234964749; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.36] (ppp-124-121-208-199.revip2.asianet.co.th. [124.121.208.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wg6sm18796772pbc.3.2013.07.07.15.09.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51D9E641.5020905@pathscale.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 05:05:53 +0700 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120731 Thunderbird/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad J. Milios" Subject: Re: [SPAM] Announcing: nuOS 0.0.9.1b1 - a whole NEW FreeBSD distro, NOT a fork References: <51D9E499.103@nuos.org> In-Reply-To: <51D9E499.103@nuos.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlbcAAk0o1vy0ehBD7JvvXFoREh2ChhVjS3LOozehkjfuJ1QhOZ7de21FHxq3IH8aJu9QyF Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 22:09:25 -0000 On 07/ 8/13 04:58 AM, Chad J. Milios wrote: > Outline of features: > > Extends plain old FreeBSD 9.1 (RELEASE or STABLE) and maintains total > compatibility > We seek to remain nimble > Expect a production-ready seal of approval to lag behind releases > by no more than a week or two > and prebuilt images and packages > e.g. releases like 9.2 and 10.0, et al > Someone should be able to build it and use all applicable > features on 8.4 with ease > we simply haven't the time or inclination to even try > Default full ZFS filesystem layout, completely legacy-free > Boot from ZFS, boot to ZFS > If you'd like use all 100.0% of all your drives for one large > zpool > Use one large zpool for all of your > filesystems > block volumes > alternate boot environments, including one called "rescue" > which is included > NO partitions, not some tiny /, not even a /boot > Just ZFS datasets in their infinite flexibility > /etc is now a ZFS dataset of its own > How did we do it? > Decades of conventional wisdom says /etc must be > on /. > Check it out, discuss the whys and the trade-offs. > nu_jail - provision all sorts of jails > No guesswork > Yet no cookie-cutter limitations > Clean-room jails provisioned almost instantly > ZFS clone of /etc and /var give you almost no storage overhead > nullfs and/or unionfs mounts of /, /usr, /usr/local give you > almost no memory overhead > Run 1,000 jails and 10,000 Apache instances > they safely access the same executable memory pages > they securely know not of one-another's existence > Advanced intra-host networking with VIMAGE kernel by default, > simplified > Made for developers who want robustness, power and flexibility > streamlined for > Unlimited development, testing, staging and production > environments > Uses all of the new jail and vnet features of FreeBSD 9.1 > We cleaned out all of the cruft left over from earlier versions omg you've created Solaris ------------ If you're going to spam commercial stuff with absolutely no technically interesting details - please keep it brief at the least. Generally people will be curious about What are you actually adding to the ISO which FBSD-current can't do? If it's not upstream already - will it be contributed upstream?