From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Feb 25 13:54:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-10.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9601C37B401; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44FC766F83; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:54:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:54:29 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Matt Dillon , Bruce Evans , Kris Kennaway , Robert Watson , Nick Sayer , cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rand.c patch for review (was: Re: cvs commit: ports/astro/xglobe/files patch-random) Message-ID: <20010225135429.A47615@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <200102250900.f1P90Qc12868@earth.backplane.com> <20010225092416.A46959@hamlet.nectar.com> <20010225185535.A55782@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225191316.A56093@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225193409.A56351@nagual.pp.ru> <20010225131002.A38192@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010225132152.A39554@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010226005004.B59772@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010226005004.B59772@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:50:04AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:50:04AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 13:21:52 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Nevermind, I read the followup about needing to have independent > > state. I think you should duplicate the rest of the random() and > > srandom() stuff, not just good_rand() -- random.c does more work to > > seed things, for example, which I'd feel better about. Also, document > > in rand.c and random.c that they should be kept in sync modulo the > > missing srandomdev() code. >=20 > Maybe, but only in case we need to care about rand() distribution _so_ > match, I am not sure. Every manual nowdays marks rand() as deprecated. Yet it's still used bogusly for cryptographic needs - e.g. even XFree86 4.x seems to use rand() for generating cookies, I discovered last night (as a result of my rand() warning :-). If we fix up rand() to have a decent cryptographic behaviour, we save all the idiot programmers from themselves. Kris --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6mX8VWry0BWjoQKURAlvLAKDXZIi2TYYsF45JVwhIYtt1S1tLOgCgt0vw LuSyosUBFNTiRTjhZQ4LVCQ= =RblQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message