From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 22 01:53:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04231065675 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@blakemfg.com) Received: from mail.getnet.net (mail.getnet.net [216.19.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CB608FC17 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11960 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 01:53:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Feb 2011 01:53:22 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at getnet.net Received: from mail.getnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.getnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMLOB9YJitRy for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:53:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 11954 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2011 01:53:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ragnok.blakemfg.com) (fredb@216.19.219.132) by mail.getnet.net with ESMTPA; 22 Feb 2011 01:53:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4D63161E.9020405@blakemfg.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:49:18 -0700 From: Fred User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20110131 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110222013244.GA12065@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110222013244.GA12065@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: are there any GUI editors that use vi/vim-like abbreviations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 01:53:23 -0000 On 02/21/11 18:32, Gary Kline wrote: > iF we throw out "gvim" since it is simply the GUI variant of > vim, are there are other GUI editors that use the kinds of :ab > abbreviations that vi does? I ask this because I don't know > wmany many people with speech imopairments or who cannot speak > at all would be interested in using my version of vi/vim with > it's .ex/.nex/.vimrc and my hundred+ abbreviations. > > The IM app, pidgin is not an editor, but it does let user use > the mouse and/or arrow keys. pidgin also uses abbrvs. BEcause > i type so slowly, i have my pidgin set up to use a slew of > abbrev. [Well, not the obv's, like 'FWIW' :-) ... but other > words. > > I would be interested in knowing how many list members _don't_ > know vi and use another editor. just curious.... > > gary > > > > I have been using nedit for many years. It is very easy to use. It uses the mouse, arrow keys, etc. so you don't have to do multiple keystrokes. Vi is insane. I don't know what you mean about the abbreviations though. I don't think it does that. The current version in ports for 8.1-RELEASE has a problem requiring a simple patch when it is built. This was discussed here a couple weeks ago. Best regards, Fred