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Date:      Mon, 01 May 2006 20:47:31 +0100
From:      eoghan <freebsd@redry.net>
To:        ahze@ahze.net
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: GNOME 2.14 being merged into the tree
Message-ID:  <445665D3.3000208@redry.net>
In-Reply-To: <b2203fed0605011245g54cdeb80g60ad201f257de769@mail.gmail.com>
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michael johnson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/1/06, *eoghan* <freebsd@redry.net <mailto:freebsd@redry.net>> wrote:
> 
>     michael johnson wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      > On 5/1/06, *eoghan* <freebsd@redry.net <mailto:freebsd@redry.net>
>     <mailto:freebsd@redry.net <mailto:freebsd@redry.net>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Vladimir Grebenschikov wrote:
>      >      > В пн, 01/05/2006 в 12:20 -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke пишет:
>      >      >> On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 17:15 +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
>      >      >>> michael johnson schrieb:
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>>>> ahze@ seems to have fixed the note in UPDATING for it,
>      >     although I'm not
>      >      >>>>> sure it's enough. At least x11/kdelibs wants
>     mDNSResponder,
>      >     and if
>      >      >>>>> avahi is already installed the dependencies will be
>     recorded
>      >      >>>>> incorrectly. I've already informed kde@
>      >      >>>>
>      >      >>>> We're working on a fix. Either we will disable
>     mDNSResponder
>      >     in avahi
>      >      >>> Yes, please.
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>>> or hopefully kde@ will want to use avahi's mDNSResponder.
>      >      >>> This wouldn't help the people running into the CONFLICTS
>     right
>      >     now (the
>      >      >>> dependencies are already registered in people's pkgdbs when
>      >     they do,
>      >      >>> changing the kdelibs port won't fix that). We can try to
>     make
>      >     that work
>      >      >>> later.
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>> Also ... seriously, do you guys even check just what is
>      >     depending on the
>      >      >>> things you're setting CONFLICTS with? I really was not
>      >     expecting to see
>      >      >>> anybody pull a fam->gamin again so soon.
>      >      >> We tested this change as we do all GNOME development
>      >     versions.  In the
>      >      >> past, GNOME/KDE conflicts were quickly brought to light
>     by our
>      >     testers.
>      >      >> It seems that this time around, we did not have anyone trying
>      >     GNOME 2.14
>      >      >> with KDE on the same machine.  I was rather shocked
>     myself to learn
>      >      >> about this and the xpdf/poppler conflict so late.
>      >      >
>      >      > Both problems was reported before here:
>      >      >
>      >      >                               From:
>      >      > Vladimir Grebenschikov
>      >      > <vova@fbsd.ru <mailto:vova@fbsd.ru> <mailto: vova@fbsd.ru
>     <mailto:vova@fbsd.ru>>>
>      >      >                             Sender:
>      >      > vova@fbsd.ru <mailto:vova@fbsd.ru> <mailto:vova@fbsd.ru
>     <mailto:vova@fbsd.ru>>
>      >      >                                 To:
>      >      > Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net <mailto:mezz7@cox.net>
>     <mailto:mezz7@cox.net <mailto:mezz7@cox.net>>>
>      >      >                                 Cc:
>      >      > Tuc at T-B-O-H < ml@t-b-o-h.net <mailto:ml@t-b-o-h.net>
>     <mailto:ml@t-b-o-h.net <mailto:ml@t-b-o-h.net>>>,
>      >      > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
>     <mailto:freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org> <mailto:
>     freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org <mailto:freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org>>
>      >      >                            Subject:
>      >      > Re: Suggested mod for
>      >      > gnome_upgradeXXX.sh
>      >      >                               Date:
>      >      > Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:50:23 +0300
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > В вс, 19/03/2006 в 11:36 -0600, Jeremy Messenger пишет:
>      >      >> We will be no longer need gnome_upgradeXXX.sh in the
>     future version
>      >      > of
>      >      >> GNOME. Bless to the ltverhack that fix libtool bug. Upgrade
>      >     GNOME 2.12
>      >      > to
>      >      >> 2.14 (still in MC) was a lot easier than any previous
>     version, which
>      >      > it
>      >      >> can be done with portupgrade now. About four to five
>     steps to do
>      >     it.
>      >      >> Here's what I did with GNOME 2.12 to 2.14:
>      >      >>
>      >      >>       pkgdb -Ff (need for gst stuff)
>      >      >>       portupgrade -f -o net/avahi howl-\*
>      >      >>       portupgrade -a
>      >      >>       portupgrade -f -o x11/gnome-screensaver
>     xscreensaver-gnome-\*
>      >      >>
>      >      >> The steps might be change if there is any better. Like
>     might be best
>      >      > to
>      >      >> follow UPDATING before do the portupgrade -a.
>      >      >
>      >      > First of all thanks for good work.
>      >      >
>      >      > Unfortunately, I've do this upgrade before above
>     suggestion, so I was
>      >      > forced to find the solution with howl -> avahi by myself.
>      >      >
>      >      > Also there is one more conflict of this kind:
>      >      > evinice requires poppler, but poppler conflicts with already
>      >     installed
>      >      > xpdf:
>      >      > ===>  Installing for poppler-0.5.1
>      >      >
>      >      > ===>   poppler-0.5.1 conflicts with installed package(s):
>      >      >       xpdf-3.01_2
>      >      >
>      >      >       They install files into the same place.
>      >      >       Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
>      >      > *** Error code 1
>      >      >
>      >      > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/poppler.
>      >      > *** Error code 1
>      >
>      >     Regarding poppler...
>      >     Is this a requirement for a successful gnome 2.14 upgrade?
>     Mine is
>      >     running at the moment, and this did fail...
>      >
>      >
>      > if you want to use the full gnome desktop (evince), than yes. But you
>      > can keep xpdf installed if you'd rather not have evince.
>      >
>      > Michael
> 
>     ok thanks
>     So can i make deinstall xpdf after my portupgrade and make install for
>     poppler? Should this suffice or will i need to run portupgrade again?
> 
> 
> Just deinstall xpdf and run portupgade again, we're working on splitting
> poppler up a little bit more to not conflict with xpdf. We should have it
> ready sometime this evening.
> 
> Michael

Thanks Michael
I will do that.
Eoghan



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