Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 20:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: backyard <backyard1454-bsd@yahoo.com> To: FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is the new version going to be easier to get working? Message-ID: <20060903030321.33251.qmail@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <14FE41B6-B36C-4D18-B3C0-D13FBF51660E@hiwaay.net>
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--- David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net> wrote: > > > > Having 21 computers here I figured I would > finally be rid of > > MSwindows, and have a complete LAN system that was > more reliable. > > Why would you want to make things reliable? With > Windows your career > is secure knowing you will have to be kept around to > keep them > running. Microsoft cleverly backs a certification > program to make > sure its graduates never recommend anything other > than what they have > been "trained". Not-MSCE certified thought; use OS/2 Microsoft's copy was corrupted after the portsnap.... > > > Seven computers I have tried with all > three BSDs and not > > one of them > > managed to produce a working network connection. did you plug them in? if these computers are HP's (Kayaks) with a scsi controller with a ethernet port on the controller then you might be sol out of the gate. FreeBSD Rel_5 never supported them for me Rel_6 does. I know pcBSD uses rel_6 I know desktopbsd use rel_5. Although outside these obscure cases I have not found a modern PC with a card FreeBSD didn't support when I booted it up. it seems like most things I find are MII bus based. > The only thing I > > achieved > > was that now I can almost visualise every screen > from the > > installations. > > Start by forgetting about the installation screens. > They are only > there to get the most basic things running well > enough to get the > system installed on disk(s). After one is running > from the installed > image one almost never returns to sysinstall. > > ifconfig(8) is probably the most important tool, > from command line, > that you need to diagnose network configuration and > ultimately > configure the connection. ping(8) is equally useful. > > If you have a DHCP server the machine is to use then > as root where > fxp0 is my NIC: > > # dhclient fxp0 > > If that works then /etc/rc.conf needs this line: > > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP" > > If your machine's address is static then this sets > 192.168.10.12 on > a /24 net: > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.10.12/24" > > If you have run sysconfig multiple times then you > likely have > conflicting replications in /etc/rc.conf (only the > last reference > applies). Manually edit and reconcile the > differences. > > > I am baffled by how anyone is able to get > a bsd networked > > system > > working. I guess I just have to stick with a > windowsOS. someone must have; you're on the internet talking to us. its too bad you can only use NetBIOS/Netbuie(gave up trying to spell that)/SMB on that there windows network. I mean who would have ever thought of coming up with a TCP/IP reference specification... > > OK, no skin off my nose. Your problem solving skills > are terrible. > When (supposedly?) looking for help you do nothing > but complain > without saying anything specific about what wasn't > working or the > hardware involved. I highly recommend Microsoft > products to people > such as yourself. MCSE comment(sort of):because microsoft is so much stabler, and network friendly, with full POSIX compliance..., an ActiveViri component integrated into their full international standards compliant Web Browser... I've generally had more trouble setting up windows networks then anything BSD/GNU. Nothing more fun then having a 5 year old NIC that is supported in everything but Windows 2000. Makes connecting to the internet to download the driver a lot of fun. *BSD can be intimidating to some because you have full control, which can be good and very bad at times. some people like to drive their pretty lamborginis that their daddies bought em. some like to tweak a frame and engine with all the simple tools they have in their garage so they can take that "poor" kids pink slip. of course some like to be told what to do, and that they must install this browser they do not use or want, a java system that violates US Patent Law, and if they tweak the install scripts to stop this; "...Windows Has detected the configuration files have been modified..." > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive > mad. some people just want an excuse to stick with windows; I'm coo-coo for coco puffs myself. -brian
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