From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 14 6:25:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0D6B37B719 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 06:25:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 13468 invoked by uid 100); 14 Mar 2001 14:25:12 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15023.32583.954398.211811@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:25:11 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010313211657.00e294a0@localhost> References: <3AADC096.DE27817@outpost.co.nz> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311235053.00e26140@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311230800.00e19bd0@localhost> <15020.28993.192354.986367@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010312223234.0445f3a0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010313211657.00e294a0@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 01:42 AM 3/13/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > >> Actually, no, King's experiment has gone wrong, and much of the blame > >> lies with the specific implementation he devised. Some conspiracy > >> theorists have argued that it was designed to fail, but the more likely > >> explanation is that he simply doesn't understand the medium. > > > >I would argue that *nobody* understands the medium yet. That's why the > >publishers are scared stupid. They don't understand it, and are > >desperately trying to control it in order to preserve their profits. > > It's not the medium that matters; it's PEOPLE and their behavior toward > one another. If King underestimated the amount of illegal copying that > would take place, it was because he didn't understand that unethical > people like Stallman and Barlow were urging people to steal -- or that > this "non-ethic" has become so common on the Internet. I think you're simply being inflamatory again, but will give you a chance to prove it. Can you provide a pointer to an RMS paper where he encourages people to steal, as opposed to arguing for making the copyright laws recognize the reality of the digital age - or doing away with them, which is the simplest way to do that? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message