Date: Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:29:02 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.ess.harris.com (James Leppek) To: hackers@freebsd.org, jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Subject: Re: Proposal to change name of this list to a less embarrassing one Message-ID: <9507051329.AA02921@borg.ess.harris.com>
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Along the lines of IPNG (next generation) how about freebsd_NG Hmmm, being an old timer/hacker :-) I like hacker but agree with your logic. Jim > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freefall.cdrom.com Wed Jul 5 05:36:35 1995 > Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:42:45 +0200 > From: Julian Howard Stacey <jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> > To: hackers@freebsd.org > Subject: Proposal to change name of this list to a less embarrassing one > Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org > > > I propose we change the list name `hackers' to [ Suggestions Please ]. > > The world of journalists & bosses & general public has made up its mind > a hacker is anti-social, the name thus harms FreeBSD's image. > > It's hard enough to persuade bosses and friends to use FreeBSD, rather than > something commercial, it's harder still when one must tell the `Suits': > "Your administrator should subscribe to a list called `hackers'" > > The difference between a `hacker' & a `cracker' is something > no one but us & other techno-freaks knows or cares about. > We are too few to have a hope of educating the world's press. > > The word `hacker' has been hijacked & had its meaning changed, > we should respond accordingly. > ( Most people old enough to have had the habit, have long since given up > saying "I'm gay" when merely joyful & happy, as that word too has changed its > meaning; similarly `nice' once meant `exact' but no longer does.) > > Words change, `hackers' attracts negative publicity. Let's change it. > The new name should be `future proof' & non-repelant to individual > programmers working in their leisure time, to commercial firms & governmental > users. Perhaps something like forum@freebsd.org ? (just an example, > the important thing is to expire `hackers'). > > For the people with CD-ROMs that refer to hackers@ > we could retain an /etc/aliases entry on freebsd.org for a year or so. > > Changing the name of `hackers@freebsd.org' won't happen without public support, > would those in favour please respond publicly, (no point mailing me privately). > Thanks. > > Julian S >
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