From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 9 12:22:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D8D37B406 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6103C43E70 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (eb4ca0a7d2d0c18e91f58bf45526dcd5@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g79JN42e086368; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) id g79JN3rU086367; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:03 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger To: Benjamin Krueger Cc: sagacious , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cell phone crap. Message-ID: <20020809192303.GS49844@vectors.cx> References: <20020809011505.H36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> <000201c23f84$07c948a0$0a01a8c0@MIKESBOX> <20020809030407.I36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020809030407.I36656@mail.seattleFenix.net> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike, i'm appalled that you'd choose this as a response to somebody's well-thought-out and intelligent response to you. you and i have already talked about this about a month ago. you're lapsing again. check yourself, mike. -Adam >> (08.09.2002 @ 0304 PST): Benjamin Krueger said, in 3.5K: << > > I'm not prone to disparage a person's reputation, however I believe it fair to > relay a response to what I thought was an honest and respectful suggestion. I > only do so in hopes that other folks might steer clear of engaging with this > individual and wasting their time. > > Regards, > > * sagacious (sagacious@unixhideout.com) [020809 02:05]: > > Go fuck yourself. > > > > sagacious (Mike) > > Network administrator > > The unixhideout network > > http://www.unixhideout.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Benjamin Krueger [mailto:benjamin@seattleFenix.net] > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:15 AM > > To: Mike > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Cell phone crap. > > > > * Mike (root@unixhideout.com) [020808 09:19]: > > > > > > > At 2002-08-08T08:16:09Z, "Mike" writes: > > > > > > > >> I'm not on this list to do the FreeBSD's teams bitch work. > > > > > > > > You know, I think that you just guaranteed that *noone* connected > > with > > > > FreeBSD is going to help you out on this one. I don't think that > > > > anyone's getting paid to do their "bitch work", so I don't know what > > > > crack you smoked to make you think that they owe it to you. > > > > > > > >> Make a spam team that does nothing but moderate the list's and ban > > > >> losers that spam. > > > > > > > > Excellent idea! When do you start? > > > > -- > > > > Kirk Strauser > > > > > > > "bitch work" was a little out of line. I apologize. But i think you > > took > > > it the wrong way. What i really meant by that was i dont feel i or > > anyone > > > else should have to put wasted effort into something that an > > administrator > > > with correct privledges could easily stop in the very beginning before > > it > > > becomes that much of a problem. Again, none of my domains get spam > > that > > > isnt easily taken care of. Your crack comment was cute. I now know the > > > majority of what im dealing with, and why these lists get spam. > > > > These lists already employ standard practice spam filtering methods. > > Sometimes > > stuff still gets through, but that number is dwarfed by the number of > > spams it > > successfully prevents. You fail to realize that there is no "authority" > > here. > > The folks who maintain the lists are volunteers. Everyone is a > > volunteer. If > > you would like to help, then by all means offer your services. > > > > You have no idea what the "majority of what you're dealing with" is. > > There > > literally a few ten thousands of subscribers to the list. Your broad > > generalization of an attempted insult isn't cute or productive. I'm sure > > folks > > would appreciate it if you kept it to a minimum so we can keep the noise > > down. > > The lists don't get spam because somebody disagrees with you. The lists > > get spam > > because spammers are still in business. > > > > Perhaps it would be more efficient and productive if you went and > > whined at > > the spammers and their ISPs instead of subjecting a few thousand people > > to > > your incessant whining that a FREE resource maintained by Volunteers who > > are > > not compensated in any material way for their efforts is not up to your > > personal standards. > > > > With particular respect, > > > > -- > > Benjamin Krueger > > > > "Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about." > > - Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Send mail w/ subject 'send public key' or query for (0x251A4B18) > > Fingerprint = A642 F299 C1C1 C828 F186 A851 CFF0 7711 251A 4B18 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> end of "Re: Cell phone crap." from Benjamin Krueger << -- "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw." -Lilo, "Lilo & Stitch" Adam Weinberger adam@vectors.cx http://vectors.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message