Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:44:56 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net> To: Paolo Di Francesco <paipai@tin.it> Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.990510214434.24802O-100000@cygnus.rush.net> In-Reply-To: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation>
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folks... it's baaaaaaaaaack... :/ -Alfred On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > > > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > > > this, perhaps contact sun? > > > > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > > you have to earn it. > > Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal point of > view: > > 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay 3000$ for a Sun > Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for > experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would have something > like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why Sun could give > me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons with an Ultra > box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must help in some > way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also the word > "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price. > > 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find _anything_ about "how > it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a bookstore you can > find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc. > So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$... > > 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something on-line about the > harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on limited hardware) > with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know how it works" > and read where "it's documented at page..." > > Thanks for youe time 8) > > > > Ciao Ciao > Paolo Di Francesco > _ > ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... > ~ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message
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