From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Dec 2 12:47:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38FC37B404 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B5C43EB2 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H6I00HWXF24NO@thor.acuson.com> for advocacy@freeBSD.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:41:58 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-133.acuson.com [157.226.46.133]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id V00LSMFQ; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:44:01 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 12:46:48 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: List of big names ... In-reply-to: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> To: advocacy@freeBSD.org Message-id: <200212021246.48260.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <20021201023429.G6214-100000@hub.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday 30 November 2002 10:57 pm, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > Other then that I know Yahoo! uses FreeBSD ... is there a list that anyone > is maintain about who is using it? I've been having discussions with a > partner for awhile now about whether we should launch a product with a > base OS of linux vs freebsd ... and its tiring to try and argue against > "but, nobody is accepting FreeBSD ... everyone (IBM, HP, Sun, etc) is > falling behind Linux" ... > > Do we have *anything* ... case studies or the like, from big names that > have decided *for* FreeBSD over Linux, with a sort of 'why' discusion? Do we need big names? Do we really need a user base that insists on using what the Joneses are using? The "everyone" that's falling behind Linux are just a handful of mega-corporations. When you look at small corporations and businesses, there are quite a few that use FreeBSD instead of Linux. My ISP is one of them. But announcing my ISP in a list to impress corporate bigwigs isn't going to impress anyone. Corporations are a funny sort of creature. They only like doing business with other corporations. Strange but true. Every service my company uses MUST be provided by a corporation, from the janitors to the catering to travel agencies. Those big name Linux adopters aren't using Debian, Slackware or Gentoo, they're using Redhat Inc. There are a couple of things that FreeBSD could do, short of selling its soul through incorporation. One thing that might be interesting is to make the Linux compatibility framework be LSB compliant (if possible). Another is to set up a foundation, so there's at least some semblance of hiearchical organization. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message