From nobody Wed Jul 31 05:58:42 2024 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WYhHB0NfSz5RFYg for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WYhH95dQpz4gKH for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1722405525; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iKS2+/aXzt/ar+53Nw+AMK+2tVOgj4pILW8E7u8ASlbeFhYRW9fSgUBNAJRFYJqeHNTWER PJKmMp+el9mLXEA9fFB+q0EVj9u9kldSNtv5pufSZkiqrFRx0N7gJU0nObrYrXIA50zHN3 jj8zQHPJBi9KKuAY34lkH0xLNUHI8cANPzMSSWDyWjEQnoxebsZlXBH5hIPbIh8AiOB9b+ UNVSOCvPkhGMUlMHwzVO2P9tlfzfkwq101ZNYDlNnUMQwDkFuUp/W0pTjqoKEar9sYKx6B 1WK9Es8KHdic4JOHQBXC3edxzWyJ+qThJIGJwr4YjBjW8dQUkb58WvuhlWWehg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1722405525; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Fu2Whq6u+LJk412UclLK19LDAcSZ4w2tR48w6xRI9L0=; b=qmjPIE8Yfe6qH21+4x60zIl1xrRQERXl82bLmUcomb5rSCGKns+kCyoNJdxboCBLPUlCOw Mq3fIfS8hIJb0WFWLTwjBL2VeQ/4tZUebxtCLDqROXNdy2qnI5WBPdTxZL9kFd4G5Jn0uZ n10CnlaDxHQBrkGUZOE4PVyT0da1J5CAFBAnFYOP8MhjKS8cbGOj+tvuP/trKyltk9MMBn NBDqqz53mDWVjl3faDc72pJCpKESUlRGXwXee/EAz/EVyxY4V2rPXO7jRQQ/vIHm57yFuS XJEf0m00gOrfBsfzh0pxAB6w9r6sftovrlYNIbKNkpekUsvnh42YkgnfqRes0Q== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WYhH95CMyzpp2 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 46V5wjZ5084453 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:45 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 46V5wjIP084450 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:45 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 270509] Various x11-drivers/xf86-video drivers erroneously assume that no kernel driver will attach to graphics cards (need local patches) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:58:42 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: sblachmann@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: x11@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: maintainer-feedback? X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D270509 --- Comment #42 from Stefan B. --- (In reply to wbe from comment #41) > Heikki: How old are those HP microservers? Are they "ancient hardware"? Matrox MGA is THE onboard graphics chip on server boards. Look at Supermicro, HPE and the like. These do not need overblown gaming graphics hardware. > ... that it's just a FreeBSD decision to stop supporting that driver? More exactly, it is the decision of a few high-handed FreeBSD devs. Actually, in my view removing THE server graphics chipset driver from the system looks like a bad joke that puts in question the slogan "The power to serve". Mr. Vadot already announced in the mailing lists long time ago that he want= s to throw out _all_ graphics drivers except for the oligopol Intel/AMD/Nvidia together with the SC console, and made clear that he is bent to do so, and = he will try again and again until his will will go through without too much protests. I am now unsure whether it is more prudent to search for the latest xf86-video-mga snapshot before it got deleted, to make a package of it to enable servers use graphics without having to install an energy-burning AMD/Nvidia graphics card, or to altogether completely abandon FreeBSD after almost 30 years and to migrate to Linux. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=