From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 22:40:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5D0106564A for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A318FC1D for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 22:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=51991 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K17qF-0006KK-GH for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:27 +0200 Received: from cp1228410-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.119.97]:56650 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K17qF-0006GK-5E for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:27 +0200 Received: by desktop.homenet (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:24 +0200 From: "Danny Pansters" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <142121.24995.qm@web63013.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com> In-Reply-To: <200805280034.34063.danny@ricin.com> X-Face: (Zs+'ncTcchkOX|~t6{?Iii=O!G#WEK!+OD0|-F=i%1pvP5V_Sz4PaJC8o)=?utf-8?q?MiSnH/JMJFy=0A=09oBN-My?=, v":S7, (=?utf-8?q?mmkPm=27U=7BMgT+eM=2EBd=5Cp/P!dr=5DhOTXqpse21O!=25Ct=60SE=2EOodq?= =?utf-8?q?=5Dry=5E=23kU=5E=0A=09-?=GT.[8D}i$6P>=" =?utf-8?q?=23=0A=09*J+4d=7E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805280040.24038.danny@ricin.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: TV-Tuner cards ( NTSC / PAL / SECAM ) - which works best? X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:40:29 -0000 On Wednesday 28 May 2008 00:34:33 Danny Pansters wrote: > On Saturday 24 May 2008 01:53:07 Fritz Katz wrote: > > My task is to put together a system that can ship > > world-wide, be able to display any TV signal, and have > > all the capabilites that FreeBSD can provide > > (internet, graphics, games). Potential applications > > are huge. For example, running JAVA the system could > > be used to build a low-cost Cable (OCAP in the US or > > DVB in Europe) or satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc) > > Set-top box. > > I don't think there are any "can" tuner solutions that do both > pal/secam and ntsc, and for any digital TV you pretty much have > to turn to silicon tuners I think. I also think that is where you > can find solutions that can do both traditional pal/secam and ntsc > and maybe also both dvb-* and *tsc. > > Video decoder-wise there are many solutions that can do all three > standards. Sorry bad editing: the next is about tuner chips, not the av decoding chips in the former sentence. > Microtune and others make chips for several of these and QAM-geared > and even for mechanical systems purposes (factory/lab/servo equipment) > but no everything-in-one AFAIK. It's possible that everything-in-one just > can't be done technically or economically, but the fact that they can be > designed/manufactured almost equivalent and still have such a broad area of > application clearly show their merit. Not to mention that they're already > being used all over the place in, well, TVs for example. Other chipmakers > are xceive, fujitsu, TI (they also make a prominent video decoder chip TVP > for which there are extensive datasheets on the net), probably also > philips/LG, ... [google] > > ( AFAIU it's a double (serial) PLL system so that the dividers/multipliers > can effectively both be set rather than merely a few fixed combinations -- > anybody more "skilled in the art" as the patent language goes, feel free to > comment ) > > I'm only relaying from my own research and I have no ties anywhere in this > industry, but I think you're going to need to have a significant budget and > talk to -- for example -- TI and fujitsu if you want some universal > card/USB stick to be put together. You'd also need drivers :) > > Hauppauge's stuff (or elgato) might be already extensive enough for the > multi support you want. But there too, you'd also need drivers :) > > HTH, > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-multimedia > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-multimedia-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"