From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 9 21:08:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279DC106564A for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBCC08FC13 for ; Mon, 9 May 2011 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19272 invoked by uid 0); 9 May 2011 21:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 May 2011 21:08:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=YmUJCgY+8QNq1XtoTgadPbYFHzOZLYUCIdwDAO5EZM+Pn77FOCXflt0UIHPxDeZXblkvbSgVdVgmcAc5RmUeQG/bLer1bk4gPVAGn5N54tCm6h5nPwmW3UGyp88tC1zk; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QJXhG-0005Eq-Lx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 15:08:55 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 09 May 2011 14:55:22 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 14:55:22 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110509205522.GA56894@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110509150436.61984090@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110509194204.GA56572@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Newbie Needing Help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 21:08:57 -0000 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 03:44:57PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> There's also ee in the base system, which is good enough for editing > >> configuration files, and is much easier for a casual user. The benefits > >> of vi and emacs are mostly for developers. > > > > It's not just for software development. =A0I use Vim for writing code, = but > > I also use it for writing in English -- professional work on articles, > > development of traditional (non-computer) RPG systems, fiction, > > configuration files, notes to myself, and composing emails (including > > this one). > > > > -- >=20 > I have seen vi vs emacs, kde vs gnome, but vim is different from vi corre= ct? > It is dfferent from system to system. There are like different versions > vi and vim is vi improved right? People often use "vi" to refer to any vi-like editor. There are quite a few of them; basic operation is pretty much exactly the same across them, with the way they're used mostly changing only as you get farther from the most basic feature set of each of them. Vim is indeed an abbreviation of "vi improved". I don't know that I'd call it "improved", exactly. It has a couple of features I need that are not available in other vi-like editors I've used, but it also has a lot of features that I'd rather do without. Aside from missing a couple of nice features I actually use regularly, I prefer nvi over Vim. >=20 > By the way, I remember a quote: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Hello. My $NAME is ~inigo-montoya. You killed my process. Prepare > to vi. --The Unix's Bride > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=3D&o_selected=3D1469:1&a= ction=3Dbrowse&action_mod=3Dshow&cat=3Dcro That joke is hilarious. Pedantically speaking, though, it has a small problem: "vi" is pronounced like "vee eye", not like the word "vie". --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3IVLoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUC9wCfY8qrMfq6PxQ0OXujtXeifaEp LswAni8uehTAs080a/BK8OhQoA8jnrMA =5iir -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY--