From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 6 2: 0:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from niiefa.spb.su (relay.niiefa.spb.su [193.125.158.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE0837B40D for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 02:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uvg (csd.niiefa.spb.su [193.125.158.66]) by niiefa.spb.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA46979; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:57:18 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <001401c20d38$29364f70$6615a8c0@lks.sintez> From: "Valery G. Utkin" To: "Robert Blayzor" Cc: References: <001701c20c2d$5a689460$080010ac@z0.inoc.net> Subject: Re: RE: Swap_pager error Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:56:43 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem after installation FreeBsd 4.5 without ipfw. After removal from /etc/security lines which start ipfw and ip6fw, all works normally. Valery G. Utkin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Blayzor" To: "'Matthew Dillon'" ; Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:07 AM Subject: RE: RE: Swap_pager error > I looked through all the periodic daily stuff. It doesn't seem that any > of the scripts will trash NFS mounted partitions, almost everything I > saw would only look at UFS mounted partitions. > > One thing I did notice is the security check was quite brutal. While > any server should survive it I believe this is what is causing the > system to crash. The security check seems to run a find on the NFS > servers local UFS mounts. We have some very, very large volumes with > hundreds of thousands of small files... (maildirs, boxes, webmail, web, > etc). On this box, it seemed that the security check would take almost > 3-4 minutes to complete with that find, and it just totally saturates > the box in activity when it runs. > > So, I think there may be a loading issue with all these files/inodes in > relation to the find process... Perhaps the SCSI or driver stuff in > FreeBSD. If I can be of any help on this, I surely will led a hand. I > would like to see FreeBSD be able to survive this without a hitch. > > Perhaps a suggestion to change the priority of the "find" tasks in those > scripts with nice or something. I mean the box was really bogged down > when we ran "periodic daily" by manually. > > As a work around, we moved periodic daily to run at 9:01am instead of > 3:01am, and only on Monday - Friday. We don't need any more weekend > surprise pages and then call-ins. :-) > > Since this box is an internal server only with no accounts on it, and it > has no route to the outside + behind a firewall, we're going to go ahead > and disable the security check all together. I'm hoping that this will > provide a work around for this "loading" issue. If I can be any help to > the core team to debug this problem, I'll do my best to do what I can. > > -- > Robert Blayzor, BOFH > INOC, LLC > rblayzor@inoc.net > > One picture is worth 128K words. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Dillon [mailto:dillon@apollo.backplane.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:49 PM > > To: Robert Blayzor; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: RE: Swap_pager error > > > > > > I have one more idea... daily cron jobs tend to really > > load down the > > system for a short period of time, especially the disks. > > In your case > > the local daily cron is combinging with the daily cron > > running on the > > NFS clients. There could be a hardware problem with the > > system that > > is most likely to show up under heavy loads. > > > > It is also possible that this is revealing a driver bug somewhere. > > For example, the extreme disk load could be revealing a bug in the > > driver's tag handling or in the RAID card's tag handling. > > The lack > > of driver-based error messages is rather odd. I don't > > see how that > > can happen unless the RAID card itself is locking up. > > > > -Matt > > > > :: > > ::Both times the box has crashed crashed at ~3:02am. I'm > > thinking that > > ::something in periodic daily is causing the crashes. > > :: > > ::Keep in mind, that this server serves several NFS clients > > which mount > > ::things such as FreeBSD ports and /usr/src. Those are soft > > linked to on > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message