From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Oct 25 5:32:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.monmouth.com (mail.monmouth.com [209.191.58.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4809D37B479 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 05:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bg-tc-ppp1176.monmouth.com (bg-tc-ppp1176.monmouth.com [209.191.48.174]) by mail.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09311 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by bg-tc-ppp1176.monmouth.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id e9PCe3k05581 for freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:40:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pechter) From: Bill Pechter Message-Id: <200010251240.e9PCe3k05581@bg-tc-ppp1176.monmouth.com> Subject: Re:Sparc port going 64 bit In-Reply-To: from freebsd-sparc-digest at "Oct 25, 2000 04:52:41 am" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: bpechter@shell.monmouth.com X-Phone-Number: 732-935-0629 X-OS-Type: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters (wes@softweyr.com) wrote: > You're free to work on whatever you want, but the general consensus for all > of us keepers of SPARC 1s, 2s, 5s, 10s, 20s, IPCs, and IPXs, was that it > would be hard enough to get a port going for modern 64-bit machines, let > alone doing it for ancient hardware, and NetBSD and OpenBSD support them > quite adequately already. FWIW, FreeBSD isn't really interested in "hobby" > ports anymore. This is why there ain't gonna be an Ultra Port for a while. Most of the folks who will volunteer to work on the stuff don't have or want to purchase Ultras... FWIW -- this is why Linux is getting all the different platform support and we're not. If it ran better under full load and ran with a more reliable file system I'd be worried about FreeBSD's survival. 8-) FreeBSD is the best Unix for i386... but we've not shown any real moves to the multiplatform area. A lot of us have scrounged Sparc2's (if I could scrounge a 10 or 20 it'd be running Solaris 8 to be compatible with the office for work at home). My two Sparc's (Sparc2 class machines) are in the garage with Solaris Linux, OpenBSD and NetBSD. I've pretty much given up the idea of FreeBSD on the Sparc 10's and stuff at work so I've gone back to Solaris on them. NetBSD and OpenBSD were ok -- but they didn't have the ports depth of FreeBSD and they were a bit harder to work with and support. It's just the way it seems to be. I'm sure core would love to see the port happen -- just there's no real strong leader on the Sparc side doing the coordination and push. Unfortunately, (or fortunately for me -- since I wanted the job change after 14 years of Sysadmin work) -- I'm moving out of Sysadmin and am decommissioning the FreeBSD boxes at my office and moving all to Solaris to make it easier for them to find a qualified person to admin there. (Linux, Solaris, WinNT, Win95/98). Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message