From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Oct 25 08:31:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A80C1F09A for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:31:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF0CE1A5F for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id 14so8125536vke.5 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ie3poCtgIOCBOpYFLmmwoMeHhsMIA32Teb9TYqj0blU=; b=GGC9szfiB9tqjR4NA3PnHwQp/amM0LqoeNDbGxOTO1j4vzxXF9lqLskypS4xt5qFdd zoqimDzIa+4a9zQEutx0ROVkwSsBxH+wp8JEEf8TQygm2bvv+U1eqFA36/hsIVW/r2RS Al8TPNNbaHa64gjthlISv1bz4sP1bLuQ8JShfZmWA4PExPZ4JgFletgjLv+MaVFhjMMD ls8qn5HAOnc/7Df3T9iIaa2x9jQRvI7oi0YuBAW3QogryN2z5JRztvPpFJMmphF5oWE2 2Dej2LKv3FB3FWvyKrcV178j1NEUmdO1fl5mvOLwe1wF/yrQR98yi7q2doxS6JVrHana BmKA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ie3poCtgIOCBOpYFLmmwoMeHhsMIA32Teb9TYqj0blU=; b=YKv33T40kYEthtyCMYvEE99D9/lf+7N84KEoyhX9SBqu6AT7cEmLg0L4Vs8YN24zMv HfV8ppzC3u3pXGBZMB/UA9Ss8JoZt+LJe+4idGoqQUNK/vtKojttG/mRejmAteVK9N22 pf+m4eN+zOKXy40Shubuqh4TVJUAKsiJ9/iEYYJOI9piC8CbzBOUuklDCaExNoTtFuw5 U836xEAydFrjCIsXmW6BaLFOZJi4tSYbcBrz6VzgHSf/d6DAUHF0vuJLG1EeDG7tastX Wyr7m6OWe8Q+eJN8A4xj8vDUjrDCReA05wP2dag0JdPnhRfjwqlG33Gz5lKrO7aKdMpy 9SWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfdNntZk/Djv/LS8+uxg4+xvtpgKWzH+i7wpb1VbzqgV1pZsCwoXY1wmz+3FrL7xq8wqCV+SPo2fJgz3Q== X-Received: by 10.31.92.216 with SMTP id q207mr8710782vkb.147.1477384267912; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 01:31:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.9.196 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 01:31:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <731fbd25-7c43-f2b1-088a-59efa0a7f61d@jetcafe.org> References: <20161022161428.GA7234@lonesome.com> <201610232306.u9NN5qN0091649@fire.js.berklix.net> <20161024021013.GZ51420@home.opsec.eu> <731fbd25-7c43-f2b1-088a-59efa0a7f61d@jetcafe.org> From: David Demelier Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:31:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Inconsistency? (was Re: misc/jive deleted) To: Dave Hayes Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:31:09 -0000 2016-10-24 20:21 GMT+02:00 Dave Hayes : > On 10/23/2016 19:10, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> >> In a mail thread about jive that finding is very mature 8-} > > > Speaking of maturity and attempting to add consistency, can anyone in this > thread explain why misc/jive is considered offensive and removed, but the > FreeBSD daemon logo (on the main web page) is left there ... even though > there are numerous searchable stories about that image being offensive to > some religious people? > > Thank you for your cogent reply. :) I'm a bit surprised to see so much traffic about the jive removal. I personally don't care about offensive software, users are free to not use it (sudo may have funny insults, disabled by default though). Perhaps marking it broken because it's offensive was inappropriate. However bapt pointed out some valuable reasons, the software is not maintained and has no more distfiles available and this was a good reason for being removed. And the daemon logo is a ball for several years now, not really a daemon anymore. :) Regards, -- Demelier David