From owner-freebsd-small Tue Apr 24 12:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B42037B422 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA34068; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:39:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200104241939.VAA34068@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ipfw vs. ipf (was: Re: PicoBSD's kernel, /dev/kmem, and the kernfs In-Reply-To: <3AE5CDFE.9900D18B@aurora.regenstrief.org> from Gunther Schadow at "Apr 24, 2001 07:03:26 pm" To: Gunther Schadow Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:39:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [this is a serious reply even if the tone sounds not] > Finally, for dummynet and fair queuing I prefer using ALTQ, for > similar reasons. After I have survived the pain of saying goodbye > to ipfw, I wonder why FreeBSD tries to make its own thing with > ipfw instead of just riding the wave of ipf. and i wonder why BSD tries to make its own thing with the operating system instead of just riding the wave of BSD. My understanding is that diversity is good. Case in point, dummynet and ALTQ are really two different beasts with different features, goals and performance. Sometimes you need one, sometimes you need the other, and understandably no developer on either side has the interest or energy to merge features. Also from a developer's point of view, it surely takes me, or Darren, or Kenjiro, very little programming effort, and no politics, to modify our own babies, whereas it would take endless email exchanges just to reach consensus on features, followed by discussions on 2 vs 4 vs 8 space indentation etc. etc. Not to mention NIH syndrome which plays a fundamental role in all camps :) cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO, luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) Mobile +39-347-0373137 -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message