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[89.204.153.125]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c141sm6876869wme.41.2020.01.30.07.16.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jan 2020 07:16:49 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 16:16:48 +0100 References: <17938.1575444597@critter.freebsd.dk> <20191204092402.GA82492@fuz.su> <78425.1580332298@critter.freebsd.dk> <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net> <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8BE05A88-D216-4023-AC6E-D6431C7BB3E1@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 487kTw3TMpz4DkN X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[125.153.204.89.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.12), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.52), asn: 15169(-1.78), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[f.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:16:53 -0000 > Am 30.01.2020 um 14:07 schrieb Bob Bishop : >=20 > Hi, >=20 >> On 29 Jan 2020, at 21:36, Poul-Henning Kamp = wrote: >>=20 >> -------- >> In message = <20200129222907.3ccaf4c23fe8509e3f9cdfe4@bidouilliste.net>, Emmanuel = Vadot writes: >>=20 >>>> RPi's are a LOT easier to get hold of for hackers and in particular >>>> for educators. >>>=20 >>> In what way ? >>> Real answer only. >>=20 >> 1. Schools can get them through their usual suppliers of educational >> material, with a pretty decent discount, and with educational >> courses and materials, pretty much ready to go. >>=20 >> 2. Most "maker-space" atuned electronics pushers carry them. >>=20 >> 3. Big electronics pushers carry them. >>=20 >> In re 1-3: No customs processing of shipment involved. >>=20 >> 4. Cost, including shipping is below "trivial" threshold in most >> organizations. >=20 > RPi zero in particular is cheap enough to treat as a component. >=20 >> --=20 >> Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >> phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >> FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe =20 >> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by = incompetence. >=20 > -- > Bob Bishop > rb@gid.co.uk >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=E2=80=9C Well, with all respect but this discussion is so extremely useless. .. In fact FreeBSD boots from uSD on the RPI4. from my quick reading of the = sources afaik it was K. Evans who made it bootable with CPU-hacks and E. = Vadot who made the u-boot ports. The only problem seems to be that there is no public HowTo for = uSD-preparation, If I find the time I'll post a HowTo e.g. in the fbsd-forums for = stopping=20 the public user whining over the RPI and instead help the fbsd-project = to get drivers to work :-)=20 =46rom the moment it has network(1st WIFI) it'll be a usable = fbsd-gadget. If somebody answers here : " yes, I want a HowTo and will help the = fbsd-project", I'll write a HowTo. ;-). If nobody wants to boot FreeBSD on the crappy = RPI4 we can't help out :-) Regards Klaus=