From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 13 9:10:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB3C37B422 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inisu6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.115.198]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16778; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7ECEF113F20; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: nospam@hiltonbsd.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Running Stable on remote production server References: Message-Id: <20010513160811.7ECEF113F20@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have done this on a remote system many times. It theoretically can be a bit risky, but I have done it. Same convenience factor for me - I can get to the production box, but it's a pain. What I do is... make buildworld and buildkernel on the remote machine make installkernel and installworld mergemaster and reboot. This has worked every time I have tried it, but I am sure somebody will jump in here and tell me I'm all wet. If you forget _one single thing_ in mergemaster the box will probably fail to get to the point where you can 'ssh' in. Famous examples include the pam.conf file or not making new devices. Also you can of course, with fat fingers, blow away your password or group files. I would recommend that major (3->4, 4->5) installs be done from CD as they are painful. I did the elf upgrade in place but it was, um, 'fun' and I would not recommend it. - Mike H. From: "Stephen Hilton" Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 10:57:03 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Subject: Re: Running Stable on remote production server How can you accomplish the single user installworld steps on a remote system ? Especially the mergemaster program that involves interactive routines ? I would be using SSH to connect to a remote FreeBSD box. > I have been reading the instructions for tracking stable and what is > recommended in the way of procedures. It seems from this that it would be > extremely hard to follow these recommendations for a remote POP. IE moving > to single user mode and on the whole messing with the machine for several > hours at a time. Stephen Hilton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message