From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 14:46: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6897E37B422; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5D4841BD20; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:41:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:41:04 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David O'Brien Cc: Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010507164104.I3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507231953.A41580@skriver.dk> <20010507142813.A12106@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010507142813.A12106@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:28:13PM -0700 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:28:13PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:19:53PM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote: > > I would suggest to remove the following from the ftp server too, it's > > really better to access the source tree via cvsup, cvsweb, as a .tar.gz > > or similar methods, and the thousands of files makes it a pain to mirror. > > This makes it pain for people wanting to get our source code to look at > for reference or use in non-FreeBSD projects. IMHO CVSweb sucks for > anything other than using it as a "one off" ``cvs log''. If one wants > all the files to say src/bin/sh, CVSweb is a difficult way to get them. > Same for CVSup for non-FreeBSD users. > > > > Same goes with the ports > > pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/ > > pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ports/ > > pub/FreeBSD/branches/*/ports/ > > I have to 100% totally disagree here. I point many people to the checked > out ports tree to get newer bits. You are thinking as a FreeBSD Power > User here who probably runs -current. Not in the mind of a lot of our > Linux converts. I agree with what David says here. > > And perhaps make a decistion regarding if we should distribute snapshots > > from ftp.freebsd.org, or only from current.freebsd.org (and then > > transfer the alpha snapshots there instead of ftp-master). > > Perhaps we should just go out of the FTP distribution business. IMHO it > does not seem you really want to be a FTP mirror. > > I have always kept one usable Alpha -current snapshot on the FTP site. > current.freebsd.org isn't mirrored, thus anyone wanting to access it has > to do to that one site. Why mirror ftp.freebsd.org at all then? > BTW, my experiences for the past several years is that connectivity to > current.freebsd.org is less than usable quite often. Well, I doubt that many people use the snaps at all. So I think having separate sites for them is an OK idea. Perhaps we should keep a small number of "known working" snaps on the ftp site, I guess. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message