From owner-freebsd-bugs Sat May 13 18:48:02 1995 Return-Path: bugs-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA17392 for bugs-outgoing; Sat, 13 May 1995 18:48:02 -0700 Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (gndrsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA17386 for ; Sat, 13 May 1995 18:47:58 -0700 Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA01094; Sat, 13 May 1995 18:47:09 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199505140147.SAA01094@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: bin/396: telnetd problems fix. To: henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu (Charles Henrich) Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505132228.PAA14049@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Charles Henrich" at May 13, 95 06:27:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2050 Sender: bugs-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > >Number: 396 > > > >Category: bin > > > >Synopsis: telnetd problems. > > > >Confidential: no > > > >Severity: serious > > > >Priority: medium > > > >Responsible: freebsd-bugs (FreeBSD bugs mailing list) > > > >State: open > > > >Class: sw-bug > > > >Submitter-Id: current-users > > > >Arrival-Date: Thu May 11 17:10:01 1995 > > > >Originator: Charles Henrich > > > >Organization: > > > Michigan State University > > > >Release: FreeBSD 2.1.0-Development i386 (950412-SNAP) > > > >Environment: > > > > > > > > > This bug is encountered on all FreeBSD systems running 950412-SNAP as > > > well as 950210-SNAP, probably on all 2.x versions. > > > > Probably on all 4.4 based OS's. Did you also open a bug report with FTP > > software?? They use to base there code on BSD 4.2 / Net/2 and it probably > > still has the bugs from that generation of code. > > > > NCSA Telnet also seems to have this problem.... > > This is fixable by disabling -DLINEMODE for telnetd, this also seems to make > things feel more responsive. While it was pointed out that this will make > slower links (ppp) work slower, most folks using ppp are going to be doing so > with software that could be breaking on this, making the system unusable. I > would strongly suggest we disable -DLINEMODE as the default for the system. > Working slow is better than not working fast. We should do this for 2.0.5. I disagree, and we have been down this road at least 4 times in the last 2 years with FreeBSD. The bug is not in the FreeBSD code, it should not be bandaided to work with code that gets option negotiation wrong. I don't like to fix bugs in other software by making FreeBSD slower at *anything*. Go get NCSA and FTP software to fix there very ancient and broken code, they have had 2 years to do this, and still have not. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Custom computers for FreeBSD