Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:11:07 -0700 From: jeff <jeff@flrtn1.occa.home.com> To: Michael Grommet <mgrommet@isiar.net> Cc: "'CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM'" <CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM>, "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right Message-ID: <19991025091106.A568@CC602670-A.flrtn1.occa.home.com> In-Reply-To: <7011ACE3864AD31183E50008C7FA081F01D52D@ISIMAIN>; from mgrommet@isiar.net on Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 10:51:53AM -0500 References: <7011ACE3864AD31183E50008C7FA081F01D52D@ISIMAIN>
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Michael Grommet [mgrommet@isiar.net] wrote: > Ok, so let me get this straight... > > you insult the group, the OS, and one of the most respected members of the > group, and > you expect help in return? > > BSD/Linux takes a spirit for adventure. If you don't have this, go back to > your windows software > as you will not be happy with either one. > > Unix and unix-like operating systems will require you to actually learn how > things work and why. > You will be rewarded by added stability, speed, and most of all, the > satisfaction that you are wiser for the experience. > > If you are the type of person who is interested in this arrangement, then > feel free to post intelligent,non-belligerent questions to this list and you > might be suprised at how friendly and helpful people can really be, > especially when they have a genuine love for the operating system. > > If not, then thats fine too. > > However, I believe you owe the group, and Greg especially, a very sincere > apology. > > > > Mike Grommet > Unix Systems Admin / Web Developer > Internet Solutions, Inc. > mgrommet@insolwwb.net > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM > Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:31 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right > > > You people are so far into this stuff that you don't know what "easy" means > anymore. I tried to install FreeBSD 3.3 last night. It was the most > difficult install I've ever seen. Problems? How would I know- I never knew > what it was doing. It installed, I just didn't know what. It is so geared > towards unix experienced geeks that a person unfamiliar with Unix is totally > lost. Microsoftcopy sucks but they've got no competition from unix yet. No > one can understand it and unix people can't make it understandable. I > picked stuff from the menu, but the interface sucked so bad I wasn't sure > what I had installed. I was so pissed that I erased it. I chose FreeBSD > over Linux because it is supposed to be more stable, but only a hacker geek > can install this OS. I'll try Linux, maybe it will be more easily > understood. Greg Lehay's book was useless- it was so far up in geek land it > was amazing. Of course, what can you expect from a guy who speaks 3 > languages and went to school for chemistry, etc. He can't write beginner > books, that's for sure. Throughout the entire installation I found myself > wondering how anybody figures this shit out. I'd appreciate any "PRACTICAL" > help as I do not want to give up on FreeBSD. > > Sincerely, > -ChadK > chadk@freewwweb.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Funny you should mention install-I came to FBSD after several VERY unhappy experiances with various linux package manager front-ends. It runs my (very) small business, allows me to do online research and helps me write papers for various classes I am taking-Perhaps if you would simply chill out a little, take a deep breath (or two) and re-try the whole thing you might actually learn something-OTOH you could persue linux and get really confused when you still have to configure the installation. In any case your anger and apparent ignorence should relly be confined to your own room, not a list that, overall does, IMHO, a damn fine job of answering questions (try sititng on the phone for hours at a time with MS to see the contrast). Just my 2cents worth. Jeff Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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