From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 27 21:59:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C96870; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.64.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC238FC08; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9RLx7OI019632; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:59:07 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9RLx7I4019631; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:59:07 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:59:07 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Rui Paulo Subject: Re: svn commit: r241610 - in head: . sys/dev/usb sys/net sys/net80211 sys/netpfil/ipfw sys/netpfil/pf sys/sys Message-ID: <20121027215907.GI70741@FreeBSD.org> References: <201210161337.q9GDbtr8049924@svn.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, Adrian Chadd , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:59:13 -0000 On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:08PM -0700, Rui Paulo wrote: R> I second Adrian's comments and I would like to add that you must NOT commit something like this, breaking the ABI, when you discussed this *ONE YEAR* ago with only two people (one of them is not very active in the networking stack). This is against all reasonable software development practices. - This wasn't discussed privately but on svn-src-head@ mailing list. You could participate. - No objections were raised one year ago. The code of if_cloners hasn't any single change during this year. - If you mean that brooks@ is not very active in networking stack, then I will point your attention to the fact that he is the original author of interface cloners. Now my questions: - Do we have any policy that doesn't permit changing ABI in head? - Apart from the ABI is there anything wrong with the r241610? P.S. And yes, please don't use top-quoting on FreeBSD mailing lists: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/mailing-list-faq/etiquette.html -- Totus tuus, Glebius.