From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 3 4:17:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CA937B400 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 04:17:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C225643E75 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 04:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0015.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.15] helo=mindspring.com) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17mBgb-0003lV-00; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 04:17:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3D74994A.E5280837@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 04:13:14 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Lee Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? References: <200209011802.g81I2N144217@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> <3D72E44E.CB303FAE@mindspring.com> <20020902105118.21bffb18.yid@softhome.net> <3D7380EE.A37DFF03@mindspring.com> <20020902133318.404b831f.yid@softhome.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joshua Lee wrote: > Actually, BSD came about because of a need for utilities and for a > virtual memory Unix on the VAX. The license issue attraction is > definitely one that developed later, and has little if any to do > with why I run BSD. That's why CSRG came about; that's not why FreeBSD came about. > > The real question is "Why did you subscribe to the mailing list?"; > > I joined -chat so I could follow redirected off-topic discussions and so > I could talk with people I had something in common with; BSD. (I joined > the other lists of course for technical content and the pleasure of > helping out those who are even more clueless than myself. :-) ) ...in other words: to join a community. 8-) > Most people actually don't change their browser's homepage because they > don't know the first thing about how to do that. I've had to explain to > many users how to find a file on their hard drive, that's the level of > over 40% of today's computer users according to a recent survey > incidentally. Using the defaults has nothing to do with if they are > rationalizing a taste for www.msn.com or not. Does anyone consider > www.msn.com to be their favorite website?! (That's even a more scary > thought to me than 40% of computer users not quite knowing what a file > directory is.) A better example is almost always to find out which search engine people select when they need to search for something, and how they get there. There are a number of natural Schelling point online, and the real point of my argument is that you can't really get people to go to them through force: they end up showing up in large numbers at certain web sites all on their own. The idea of a "portal play" ended up with a lot of dead .COMs; not because a portal is a dumb idea, but because a portal is a Schelling point, and you can't dictate or sell Schelling points, you can only gather around them after they've self-assembled. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message