From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 4 12:23:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C7E106564A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trebestie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9000B8FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:23:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trebestie@gmail.com) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2881140bwz.43 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:23:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vbxB5IBgK06v2Wz/OuNcdqWdO8WY8u920wT5fQLzzrs=; b=gQD3DyiznZtSfFb++Q9YRP3sLdYOUYB5tugqp7XePxM9syL58+l9MKB0QnPY8YziNA LyvV9zvisdnQvVVZxltbzWwfxx0qZt0woA0s4v6zq1v3YzIn1TEJBWEiobzDsv6Ajy1U 2NjLbV9FdIh5I/aoA1hlsOMwzhzUtOhDSSMUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bx9bH6K2nxNYrz4X44MVqR8UAD6ThUNf0k9ZtKY6PZMBjsEQfSMQy3FRJt/v0d/h1m At132Ak3oIvEOB+sR57e9S8G5/uhYAqLkImdhLVqd3OeLAt1fJJku0h/WIBAUGE5xkRW zQVO+D0rHOKdV4C+WJSN0Obm2iuAkfSJqOWXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.50.195 with SMTP id a3mr14359bkg.94.1249387180851; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:59:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090801114833.GA23826@lonesome.com> References: <20090706014719.GG11993@lonesome.com> <070151759cb2aacd36a14eb4b318a435@xs4all.nl> <20090716181711.GC90253@comcast.net> <36957fedc04d840595162bb026a8ec62@xs4all.nl> <20090801114833.GA23826@lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:59:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83e5fb980908040459k2e533ab4o2d23b229f98b8ace@mail.gmail.com> From: Diego Depaoli To: Mark Linimon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Martin Tournoij Subject: Re: status of FreeBSD ports you maintain as of 20090705 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:23:20 -0000 2009/8/1 Mark Linimon : > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 07:37:27PM +0200, Martin Tournoij wrote: >> I now know more than ever why I switched to OpenBSD. >> FreeBSD people no longer seem to care about broken ports, or making peop= le >> who submit broken patches maintainers, or even replying to my messages. [snip] > To summarize: my own view is that we don't want bad patches or bad update= s > to be committed; but our committers are human, too. =A0It's worth repeati= ng > that we rely on our committers to be responsible for verifying that the > changes that they're committing are correct and useful; but, they're > volunteers as well, so we have to rely on a combination of constructive > criticism and encouragement to try to improve things. There are too many ports and too few people who care them. IMHO the options are: - decrease the number of ports - increase the number of volunteers/committers/testers... - switch to a multi-level solution (e.g. Archlinux). Regards --=20 Diego Depaoli