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From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <201902180235.x1I2ZPoZ003279@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 00:49:48 -0800 Cc: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201902180235.x1I2ZPoZ003279@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> To: "Rodney W. 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Grimes wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 03:04:41PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 2019-Feb-17, at 10:03, Steve Kargl wrote: >>>=20 >>> Anyone have insight into what evdev is? There appears to >>> be no manual page. When I reboot a system with custom >>> kernel, the system is autoloading evdev.ko, uhid.ko, and >>> wmt.ko. I do not need nor what these modules loaded. >>> How does one prevent this autoloading? >>>=20 >>> Looking via the web lead to: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > web lies The URL I listed (below) is to www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query. . . and I looked at the page's content before sending the message. That is how I got the text that I quoted. (It is from section 4 "special files".) The freeBSD manpage servers might provide more man pages than are installed? >>>=20 >>> = https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Devdev&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D4&= manpath=3DFreeBSD+12.0-RELEASE&arch=3Ddefault&format=3Dhtml >>> So: >>>=20 >>> NAME >>> evdev - Generic Linux input driver >>>=20 >>> DESCRIPTION >>>=20 >>> evdev is an Xorg input driver for Linux's generic event devices. = It >>> therefore supports all input devices that the kernel knows = about, >>> including most mice, keyboards, tablets and touchscreens. evdev >>> is the default driver on the major Linux distributions. >>> . . . >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> but it seems to not have a 13-current entry. It does have >>> a 12.0-RELEASE entry. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks. Kinda odd that freebsd-current doesn't have a manual >> page, but FreeBSD-12 does. >=20 > rgrimes@t400:~ % man evdev > No manual entry for evdev > rgrimes@t400:~ % man -k evdev > apropos: nothing appropriate > rgrimes@t400:~ % uname -a > FreeBSD t400.dnsmgr.net 12.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE GENERIC = amd64 > rgrimes@t400:~ %=20 > There is no man page for evdev in 12.0-RELEASE >=20 >>=20 >> I have a wireless logitech mouse. It seems that the >> wireless USB dongle is causing the load of the modules. >> I still understand why as ums(4) does not should a=20 >> dependency on uhid, wmt, or evdev. >=20 =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)