From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 19 15:37: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from spammie.svbug.com (unknown [198.79.110.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC9137B400; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from spammie.svbug.com (localhost.mozie.org [127.0.0.1]) by spammie.svbug.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02094; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jessem@spammie.mozie.org) Message-Id: <200101192325.PAA02094@spammie.svbug.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:25:08 -0800 (PST) From: opentrax@email.com Reply-To: opentrax@email.com Subject: Re: Why did NetBSD and FreeBSD diverge? To: brett@lariat.org Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, greywolf@starwolf.com, reg@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@catonic.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010119090519.00e2ff00@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19 Jan, Brett Glass wrote: > At 12:18 AM 1/19/2001, Greywolf wrote: > >>Beg pardon, good sirs, but is this what usually happens on the FreeBSD >>lists, or is this back-and-forth merely an anomaly provided for the >>amusement of the casually-included NetBSD crowd? >> >>When there was a statement made about "hazing", it was made to sound >>as though it covered both NetBSD and FreeBSD. Observing the ping-pong >>match in progress, I think I can safely say that the newbies in NetBSD >>are treated with much less of a hazing than they are in FreeBSD. Why >>this is, I'm not sure. > > I think that this is because the NetBSD crowd, overall, is far more laid > back than the FreeBSD crowd. When one enters a group of FreeBSDers, there's > a fairly good chance that one will bump up against one big ego or another. > The probability isn't 100%; that's why you'll hear some people say, "I > had no trouble" while others -- including me -- have been roundly excoriated > from Day One. And there's a "pile on" phenomenon; when someone in a key > position decides that a newbie is a threat and flames him or her, others will > join in. > I have to agree, at least for the sake of Terry's paper. There will be large denials of this, but I experience this "pile on" behaviour myself, sometime because of my own manner-of-being. None the less, the behaviour is experience and almost positive Terry has an equation for this. :-) Best Regards, Jessem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message