From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 22:40:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8A51065675; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from thyme.infocus-llc.com (server.infocus-llc.com [206.156.254.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1D68FC12; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:40:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (c-174-50-4-38.hsd1.ms.comcast.net [174.50.4.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thyme.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D852B37B4F8; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:22:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 366A0177CD; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:22:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:22:57 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Tom Evans Message-ID: <20120117222257.GA509@over-yonder.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21-fullermd.4 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at thyme.infocus-llc.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:40:56 -0000 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:02:29PM +0000 I heard the voice of Tom Evans, and lo! it spake thus: > > You say that snapshots of STABLE are stable and effectively a > running release branch, so why can't more releases be made? > > Is the release process too complex for minor revisions, could that > be improved to make it easier to have more releases, eg by not > bundling ports packages? That's at LEAST a double edged sword. The moment you do that, you'll have a giant groundswell of complaining about how the "quality of releases" has gone down. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.