From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 28 17:00:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D771B10D9A2D for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Received: from mail4.protonmail.ch (mail4.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.protonmail.ch", Issuer "QuoVadis Global SSL ICA G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54A648D351 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phascolarctos@protonmail.ch) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:00:29 +0000 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Lorenzo Salvadore Reply-To: Lorenzo Salvadore Subject: Re: How does one become a triager? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51c0f53e-27dd-b6b1-94ee-f358fa098458@FreeBSD.org> References: <20181027210616.27bnrtit5bfusa2u@privacychain.ch> <51c0f53e-27dd-b6b1-94ee-f358fa098458@FreeBSD.org> Feedback-ID: X6az_D2smWSR8MT5MHqXnWF0upxehDyHia7Id1cbayHNBUkRu3CIeusDsZHiivIIjmaKB1_OofpALrRUYjNz3w==:Ext:ProtonMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 17:00:41 -0000 On Sunday 28 October 2018 15:19, Matthew Seaman wrote= : > On 28/10/2018 08:54, Lorenzo Salvadore via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > I saw on bugzilla that some users are FreeBSD triagers. If I unders= tood > > > > correctly, this means that they try to keep the bugs database clean= and > > > > easy to use and they ensure that the right labels, keywords, tags e= tc. are > > > > in the right place. > > > > However, I was unable to find anywhere how does one become a > > > > triager: does this work like for committers as some sort of reward = or > > > > is it on volunteer basis? > > > > > > I suppose you are talking about the Bugmeisters: > > > https://www.freebsd.org/administration.html#t-bugmeister > > > So, they are FreeBSD Developers with that task assigned to them. > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lorenzo Salvadore. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Alexandre C. Guimar=C3=A3es. > > > > Thank you very much, indeed I had not understand that the triagers > > and the bugmeisters were the same thing. > > There's a bit of a misconception here: people aren't 'assigned' to > bugmeister@ -- they volunteer. In fact, pretty much everything about > FreeBSD development is done on a purely voluntary basis. Yes, there are > a few people employed by the FreeBSD Foundation or by various vendors > (to maintain drivers for certain hardware typically) who don't > necessarily just work on what they fancy working on whenever they feel > like it, but they are definitely in the minority. > > This means that many FreeBSD developers are doing the work only as their > available free time allows. Consequently, there's always a backlog of > "stuff that should be done" and a shortage of people stepping up to do > it. Anyone wanting to become involved in the project will be welcomed > gladly and if they show any consistent tendency to contribute over time, > they will be punished with a commit bit, or (if their contributions are > not so much in the area of writing code) possibly the relatively new > project membership status. > > A lot of jobs get taken up by existing developers for the pretty simple > reason that developers tend to go to devsummits where project needs are > discussed, where many other developers get to know them and their > interests and so they are quite likely to get the suggestion that this > is a job they might like to do. In many cases, there's no intrinsic > requirement for people to be committers in order to do a lot of jobs > around the project, it's just that historically the project has been > much better at recruiting developers than people with talents in other > directions. > > So, for the OP, my advice is: talk to people, get to know and become > known around the community. Contact the bugmeister@ team and ask about > volunteering. Discuss with them how you might be able to help out, and > then get stuck in. > > If you can afford it, go to FreeBSD conferences or other events where > you can meet FreeBSD people face to face -- that makes a big difference. > There are conferences spread around the world: since the OP is > apparently in Switzerland, perhaps a visit to FOSDEM in Brussels next > February, or EuroBSDCon which will be in Lillehammer, Norway next Septemb= er. Thank you very much for your answer: indeed, it is very useful and helped m= e understand better how contribution works and how I can contribute more and = better myself. Thanks. Lorenzo Salvadore.