From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 15 15:44:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961DD16A4CE; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:44:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from franklin-belle.com (adsl-65-68-247-73.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.68.247.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30B843D45; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:44:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [10.0.0.3]) by franklin-belle.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i8FFidCt003334; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:44:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20040915104438.01f2dda0@sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:44:38 -0500 To: Adam Weinberger , "Conrad J. Sabatier" From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: <20040915152115.GD16757@toxic.magnesium.net> References: <20040915093120.3067472e@dolphin.local.net> <20040913225637.GA12665@werd> <20040914125620.GG43354@sanatana.dharma> <20040915093120.3067472e@dolphin.local.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Drop of portindex X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:44:47 -0000 At 11:21 AM 9.15.2004 -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> (09.15.2004 @ 1031 PST): Conrad J. Sabatier said, in 2.9K: << >> Why would you assume anyone will be interested in any other work you may >> produce, given the attitude you're displaying here? You may as well >> completely abandon all material pursuits, go find a nice, cozy cave >> somewhere, and sit there in complete isolation, doing absolutely >> nothing, not even trying to sustain your own existence, until you rot. >> >> My God, what peculiar notions some people have when it comes to God and >> spirituality. As Seinfeld would say, "Good luck with *that*." >>> end of "Re: Drop of portindex" from Conrad J. Sabatier << > >People, please stop these messaged attacking him. Although one of the >more bizarre manoeuvres, he did what he felt was best for him, and >nobody here is in any position to begrudge him that decision. He >obviously looks at software development differently than you or I do, >and that alone is no reason for these constant attacks and low blows. > >I can positively guarantee that any chance he would have had of changing >his mind and redistributing the software has been blown away by these >vitriolic flame messages. > >Let it be, people, and stop attacking other developers. > ># Adam > Obviously, we all won't agree, but I think you should be more concerned about the damages this did to the ports' credibility. Up until now, I have always "trusted" the ports -- some of that has diminished because of this episode. Rather than just the developer side, you don't mention the user side and it appears many users are upset (as I am) that we have wasted our time on this -- just as we go to enjoy it. As far as having blown away any chances of "changing his mind", what would anyone bank on his position remaining firm from one day to another -- he sounds unstable IMHO. Clearly, his outlook on this is odd to say the least -- and if I ever spot another one of his pieces of work, I will avoid it like the plague. BTW, I still love the ports! Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator Sage American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com