From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 20 02:01:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B94816A401 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.sprint-hsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0218743D6D for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:01:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3K21TSg028048; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:01:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k3K21NB9028047; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:01:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bv) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:01:23 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Mike Meyer Message-ID: <20060420020123.GC27835@wjv.com> References: <32575854.2582371145467129800.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> <17478.29723.209829.582135@bhuda.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17478.29723.209829.582135@bhuda.mired.org> Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on bilver.wjv.com Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, babkin@users.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 02:01:37 -0000 They all laughed on Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 13:32 when Mike Meyer said: > In <32575854.2582371145467129800.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net>, Sergey Babkin typed: > > >From: Bill Vermillion > > > > has some > > >color vision problem. Mine is a bit more than others. Everytime > > >I get called to work on a Linux system, I have to go in and disable > > >the colors as the reds and other colors become very hard to see > > >against a dark background. The problem is the luminance value of > > >colors such a red is quite low compared to others. > > The problem with Linux colors is that they have been > > designed to be used on the white background which is > > the xterm's default (and which I hate as it's tough > > on my eyes). Since I usually use the black background, > > I disable them too. > > So where do linux's blasted ls colors come from? It prints some file > type as green. Green on white is simply bad news, whether or not you > have vision problems. I always have to go disable them (and some linux > distros make them *hard* to disable). I just checked in on one Linux machine I admin - SuSE 9.2 - and the colors are set with the variable LS_OPTIONS. I've set LS_OPTIONS to '-N --color=none -T 0' And looking at the .bashrc there is also a test for the binary dircolors, and then looks for user files .dir_colors I also notice that as shipped the .bashrc has a comment line that says If LS_COLROS is set but empty the terminal has no colors. It is spelled COLROS not COLORS - but that's just cosmetic and sloppy. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com