From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 7 17:52:25 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id RAA15289 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:52:25 -0800 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA15283 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:52:23 -0800 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <11352-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:51:58 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.7/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id LAA13628 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:54:59 +1000 Received: by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id BAA23286; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:52:29 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 01:52:29 GMT From: Stephen Hocking Message-Id: <199502080152.BAA23286@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sup: Ok, I'm gonna do it. Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> But, the proposal is to tie our installation mechanism or perhaps our system >> adminstration/setup system to VGA hardware. For me, and those like me, who >> collect raggedy old scraps, and retired PC's, and test FreeBSD on them, or >> build special purpose FreeBSD boxes out of them, this means tossing out >> half of them because they have EGA or MONO video cards. Damn shame, and a >> total waste. > >Look, kindness to old hardware is well and good but you need to draw >the line somewhere when it comes to retarding progress for it. Just >as you can't give `full service' to someone with a very small disk >(they're not going to be able to take advantage of your sources, or >perhaps X, or the ports, or ... and thus will perceive FreeBSD very >differently) so you're not going to be able to support the more >advanced features on aging hardware. That's just the breaks. Nobody >said that the traditional command-line tools wouldn't be still >supported - people with specialized configurations will still be able >to type ifconfig, netstat, ping, ... by hand without any advanced tool >holding their hand or other suitable appendage. In fact, they'll probably >*prefer* to. > Will the new installation stuff use something like the dialog library hacked to run under X - I can't see why we are not able to run up something that will work under curses & X automagically. Maybe the dialog stuff is a good spot to start, unless someone has already done something cool for tcl/tk. Stephen