From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 3 01:46:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA21949 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 01:46:09 -0700 Received: from konrad.lysator.liu.se (lysnet-gw.lysator.liu.se [130.236.253.6]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA21942 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 01:46:03 -0700 From: pw@lysator.liu.se Received: from harpenden.lysator.liu.se (harpenden.lysator.liu.se [130.236.254.34]) by konrad.lysator.liu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA02517 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:45:57 +0200 Received: (from pw@localhost) by harpenden.lysator.liu.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA06819 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:45:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:45:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199508030845.KAA06819@harpenden.lysator.liu.se> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: YP Content-Length: 3030 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! First of all, thanks for a great OS. I am installing FreeBSD as my first Unix and sort of picking up the basics of Unix administration as I go along. It means some mistakes, some reinstallations, but it sure is an effective crash course. Anyhow, some confusions linger on this my third day that I can't see myself resolving easily without a little outside assistance. Main problem is with YP. I fiddle sysconfig so that ypbind is run in rc, that's fine. After this, ypcat passwd works perfectly. I put that little + entry in the password file... but this is as far as things go well. Trying to log in with a non-local user produces about a billion lines of "yp_order: clnt_call: RPC: Procedure unavailable". Is this my problem, or the server's? It's a SUN running NIS+. To be honest, I don't really need YP, but I'm trying to learn how all this stuff works. Next, NFS seems to work a little oddly at times. Mounting and such works brilliantly, no complaints from anything, but when actually using it I have noticed some problems. I haven't investigated closer but a symptom is eg moving a tar-file to a NFS-mounted remote system, then at a later time unpacking from it and finding the file to be short. If this is not something that makes you go "aha" at once, I will try to find further symptoms and make a more detailed report. Next, a suggestion; perhaps the stuff in sysconfig and rc should be cleaned up re: the use of pcvt as opposed to syscons. I didn't really have any problem tearing out the syscons stuff and setting up new configurations for pcvt but since this s one of the things a new user will look at first, perhaps it might b a good idea. Oh yes, one more thing: I have spent quite a bit of time trying to sort out just what parts of the system Kerberos, YP, and DES affect, respectively. I installed Kerberos, then ripped it out, but I failed to uninstalled it nicely. Finally I just basically recompiled the whole system. Most confusing I guess is the DES stuff; I think perhaps you should put further emphasis on the fact that once outside the US, DES implementions can be used freely. This is very far from obvious. It is also not obvious just what all these various secure/ dirs, sources, binary distribs, do... secure_rpc is a good example of a fairly unfathomable entity. But that's source stuff, I guess it's not meant for me. :) All in all, these things would benefit from a great big explicit README-file. There is lots of help on what keys to press in the installation program -- fairly uninterseting, in my opinion, -- and perhaps some lack of information on a more medium level of complexity such as the things mentioned here: just what the various things do, where they fit into and what binaries/libraries they affect/recompile/are referred by. All in all, though, I am vastly impressed by the ease with which I turned my PC into a computer. Many, many thanks! If there is anything that I, in my unfortunately fairly unexperienced way, can do, please ask. Thanks again, P. Winzell