From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 22:15:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1AD93B2; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2F862EF6; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id t60so4860993wes.20 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=W3qSd9WPAEkLkTwjKk53jOhl6dg+gHJjRZNRqe79jMQ=; b=NpqJJUZdlk6BItqd2InTvhdz+xUl0vDUYOkOi2NDb4SXyrWs/RdjtyaRrLUKbl8qma Zxuo9k8Nw3qnSZl1TJFEN6Fh+c5H5XWAQgYWKxObRk8fZd1vDyK3rCsNUKs3HlAJ8NDa m/KuQA3adLFFvLhAXCWA5u6rBzg450gHuvzyX2tYqez/KiS2a5tUOV9EPO0kxMFHY3tS eOAff1kzcXx8HQRQ0Z6xuudBjzMWaBciiBfFu4eLzFKbcTsuSoj8/RrPnHECXVEOwr/p Z3JJYGFolQPEViC2i60XAoRT3+DLhB0y7NhJSWDApFfCRVN+mdKitvgxHEnNdt5nrCRx Xqvg== X-Received: by 10.180.95.135 with SMTP id dk7mr383649wib.68.1407449717019; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fb8sm631711wib.15.2014.08.07.15.15.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 00:15:13 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Michael Gmelin Subject: Re: svn commit: r364113 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg Message-ID: <20140807221513.GX17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <53e0f0ad.5847.5faaa40c@svn.freebsd.org> <15D20738-E215-4F78-A9CC-5A635D488498@adamw.org> <20140806053647.GL17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <7D423316-97A3-44B5-A427-4027EF61FACE@adamw.org> <20140807190501.7ac2db0c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20140807171815.GV17537@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20140807204327.25282847@bsd64.grem.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140807204327.25282847@bsd64.grem.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, Adam Weinberger X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 22:15:20 -0000 --Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 08:43:27PM +0200, Michael Gmelin wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:18:15 +0200 > Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:05:01PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:50:49 -0400 Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > > On 6 Aug, 2014, at 1:36, Baptiste Daroussin > > > > wrote:=20 > > > >> On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:46:13AM -0400, Adam Weinberger wrote: > > > >>> On 5 Aug, 2014, at 10:56, Baptiste Daroussin > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> - Directories can be listed in the plist like files they will > > > >>>> be considered like @dirrmtry > > > >>>=20 > > > >>> That one is exciting! Do they still need to appear in the same > > > >>> way (i.e. at the end of the plist, in reverse-order)? > > > >>=20 > > > >> pkg never had this limitation :) > > > >=20 > > > > I am constantly amazed at the tremendous progress that pkgng has > > > > achieved. The problem is, a lot of these improvements aren=E2=80=99t > > > > documented anywhere, so it=E2=80=99s hard to know what new paradigm= s we > > > > have at our disposal! > > > >=20 > > > > Although I suppose that until pkg_install is fully deprecated (< 1 > > > > month now, yay!), it=E2=80=99s best that we not go crazy with incom= patible > > > > plist changes. > > >=20 > > > We should probably have a discussion in September about what to do > > > with the newly acquired freedom. For instance, there are way too > > > many tiny files in the ports tree that slow down subversion > > > operations and take up way too much disk space (smallest file size > > > on default FreeBSD install these days is 4KiB). I think we should > > > move distinfo into the Makefile, combine all pkg-* files into one > > > Pkgfile (using ucl syntax maybe?) and combine patches per feature > > > instead of one patch per file. I'd like to get rid of the files > > > directory too, at least in most cases. > > >=20 > >=20 > > That discussion needs to happen now. > >=20 > > I'll collect the idea after my return from vacations :) > >=20 > > What I have in mind and is going to happen: > > - automatically directory handling no more @dirrm* only the empty > > directory or the one with special credentials will need to be > > specified > > - remove of @exec > > - remove of the mtrees (from the packages) > > - make pkg directly handle plist sub so it become plain > > search&replace instead of dangerous regex > >=20 > > I have more ideas but I will let everyone share his first > >=20 >=20 > I would like to see more features and improvements myself, but we should > be aware that users are starting to use pkg on mission critical systems > now. >=20 > This means that we need to focus on release quality. We can break > pkg-devel all we want, but ports-mgmt/pkg just needs to work. >=20 > That said, I hope you'll enjoy your vacation, you earned it ;) Yes but pkg 1.3 is reavealing tons of problems from the ports tree we need = to fix. Concerning the features yes we were speaking of pkg-devel of course :) Bapt --Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPj+nEACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ex26gCgoQzl1T3w01fLyOam5qpgDVP/ x74An2uKZKSwsnTboJVcdAlveWT2ZJqV =FhK6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Er97KPJOrxRt+yKZ--