From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 14 7:34:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8A37B718; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 07:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=50ccf7bd7ea42a278b7671d3b6d40956) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14dDH7-0000Rn-00; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:33:22 -0700 Message-ID: <3AAF8F41.59B3F3B@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:33:21 -0700 From: Wes Peters Reply-To: FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Bob Van Valzah , pW , FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Racoon Problem & Cisco Tunnel References: <003d01c0ac50$ec379280$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Thanks! > > It's not really a religious war, because there's valid reasons > to move to IPv6 and I think it's obvious that ultimately the > Internet is going to have to go there. But, what the engineers > don't understand is that this is a political problem, not a > technical problem. No, it's both. Proactive organizations should be implementing both early rather than late, and anyone selecting network infrastructure equipment at this time should be buying equipment that is IPv4 and IPv6 capable. > Take some of those large corporations, like SquishySoft, that > have entire class A's assigned to them, but firewall the entire > address space off from the public Internet, and only allow > incoming connections to perhaps 100 of them. Would you like > to be the CEO of Squishy when the papers start rolling the story > of how this company's completely unjustified hanging-on of this > block is preventing another 16 million people from being brought > on to the Internet? Yes, I certainly would. That's a business asset, and a quite valuable one. I have a portable class C that I'm not using at the moment because my ISP, dunderheads that they are, charge 4x the price of the connection to route a class C. If anyone wants to buy this lovely address, bidding starts at $50,000. ;^) Replies directed to -chat. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message