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Date:      Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Barrett Richardson <barrett@phoenix.aye.net>
To:        Pete Fritchman <petef@netreach.net>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>, Unknow User <kernel@tdnet.com.br>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: some nice advice.... 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9906162256390.371-100000@phoenix.aye.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990616182221.28882A-100000@static-petef.netreach.net>

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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Pete Fritchman wrote:

> If you get compromised, why does it matter?
> The attacker compiles a new kernel, waits for you to reboot, boom.
>
  If he waited for me to reboot, he would be waiting for me to do
  an upgrade. A machine reboot around here (other than the squid
  boxes) gets EVERYBODY out of bed.
 
> It's kind of hard/stupid to think about something in terms of "what if you
> get compromised" - he'll have root and be able to do whatever you are
> thinking about doing (equal privelages)

  On one machine, yes. If he had tcpdump one breach could turn into
  many. I agree its hard, and it may be stupid -- I don't care -- system
  breaches are embarrassing and costly.

> 
> just my two cents.
> 
> --------------------
> [  Pete Fritchman  ]
> [ Systems Engineer ]
> [petef@netreach.net]
> --------------------
> 
> 
> 



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