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Date:      Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:57:00 -0500
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
Cc:        Michael VInce <mv@roq.com>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, Sten Daniel S?rsdal <lists@wm-access.no>
Subject:   Re: Network performance 6.0 with netperf
Message-ID:  <20051020145700.GA86725@FS.denninger.net>
In-Reply-To: <p06200714bf7d5916c6de@[10.0.1.210]>
References:  <434FABCC.2060709@roq.com> <20051014205434.C66245@fledge.watson.org> <43564800.3010309@roq.com> <4356BBA1.3000103@wm-access.no> <43579259.8060701@roq.com> <p06200714bf7d5916c6de@[10.0.1.210]>

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I think that's unfair.

I have a couple of Dell machines and my biggest complaint with them has been
their use of proprietary bolt patterns for their motherboards and similar
tomfoolery, preventing you from migrating their hardware as your needs grow.

This also guarantees that your $75 power supply becomes a $200 one once the
warranty ends - good for them, not good for you.

Other than that, I've been pretty happy with their stuff.  Sure beats a lot
of other "PC" vendors out there in terms of reliability, heat management,
BIOS updates, etc.

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On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:26:31PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 10:49 PM +1000 2005-10-20, Michael VInce wrote:
> 
> > The 4 ethernet ports on the Dell server are all built-in so I am assuming
> > they are on the best bus available.
> 
> 	In my experience, the terms "Dell" and "best available" very 
> rarely go together.
> 
> 	Dell has made a name for themselves by shipping the absolutely 
> cheapest possible hardware they can, with the thinnest possible 
> profit margins, and trying to make up the difference in volume. 
> Issues like support, ease of management, freedom from overheating, 
> etc... get secondary or tertiary consideration, if they get any 
> consideration at all.
> 
> 	But maybe that's just me.
> 
> -- 
> Brad Knowles, <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>
> 
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
> 
>     -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
>     Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755





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