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Date:      Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>
Cc:        "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, brian@Awfulhak.org, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, dyson@iquest.net, ahasty@mindspring.com, crossd@cs.rpi.edu, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, schimken@cs.rpi.edu
Subject:   Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906041912220.82061-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199906042055.NAA84114@bubba.whistle.com>

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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote:

> An attempt at a constructive idea...
> 
> Regarding the comment that communicating via face to face meetings
> is vastly superior (and less emotionally draining) that communicating
> via email..
> 
> Why don't we send all of our VM experts (JD, DG, Matt, Alan, Poul, et.al.)
> to a 3-day "FreeBSD VM camp" (funded by the FreeBSD project), give them lots
> of white boards and markers, and see what they come up with? Like: a well
> thought out, detailed, and agreed-upon roadmap for future work.
> 
> Maybe email is sufficient even for the single most critical and complex part
> of FreeBSD, but this whole Matt debacle seems like a counter-example to that.
> 
> Just a thought.

Because such a thing would:

a) just about totally drain FreeBSD's budget in one whack, and
b) give no useful results.  Again, what's needed is *testing*, not
   more ideas.  It can't be done in one fell swoop, that's what
   this entire brouhaha is about.

The testing is very difficult to set up, and then even more difficult to
correctly interpret.  It's not going to be subject to the "bigger
hammer" approach, though you weren't suggesting that directly.

> 
> -Archie
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________
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> 
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