From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 8 21:24:09 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F61616A41F; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:24:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D6943D45; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:24:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:24:07 -0700 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 6B9735D07; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) To: Julian Elischer In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:25:57 PDT." <42F7BFD5.5060003@elischer.org> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:24:07 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20050808212407.6B9735D07@ptavv.es.net> Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Jens Schweikhardt Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/games/fortune/datfiles fortunes fortunes2-o X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:09 -0000 > Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:25:57 -0700 > From: Julian Elischer > Sender: owner-cvs-all@freebsd.org > > Jens Schweikhardt wrote: > > schweikh 2005-08-08 19:58:27 UTC > > > > FreeBSD src repository > > > > Modified files: > > games/fortune/datfiles fortunes fortunes2-o > > Log: > > Move the Hitler quotes and some references to him to the "offensive" file. > > I did not bother to sort them all. If you have a script, feel free. > > > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.181 +0 -78 src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes > > 1.31 +73 -0 src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes2-o > > > I object to many of these being moved. > For one, many of them are not by Hitler. > Of thse tha are, many of them show his thoughts in a very > negative and enlightenning way. > > I object to this sort of revisionist cleansing. > > % > I shall give a propagandist reason for starting the war, no matter whether > it is plausible or not. The victor will not be asked afterwards whether > he told the truth or not. When starting and waging war it is not right > that matters, but victory. > -- Adolf Hitler > > > This is a brilliant light on the actions of Politicians around the world. > > % > What luck for the rulers that men do not think. > -- Adolf Hitler > % > > Something we should all think about, and a warning to the future! Second the motion. Hitler gave people lots of warning of what he was thinking and what he thought of society that should serve as a warning to future generations. Hitler, no matter how much evil he did, was a brilliant manipulator in an age before modern marketing of political postures. Many of the techniques he used have been around at least since ancient Greece and are still in use today. The damage that can (and has) come from this MUST not be forgotten. The words at Auschwitz are "Never forget", but in their zeal to bury the evil Hitler, they often seem bent an making sure that we do. It's not pleasant history, but it is important history. On with the bikeshed! -- R. Kevin Oberman E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634