From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 6 10:29:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF2237B401 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 10:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0027943FD7 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 10:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfak@telus.net) Received: from plasma ([154.5.44.11]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030406172912.CLIN9999.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@plasma>; Sun, 6 Apr 2003 11:29:12 -0600 Message-ID: <000401c2fc62$061306e0$c601a8c0@plasma> From: "Peter" To: "Gregory A. Gilliss" , References: <20030406172035.GA45332@netpublishing.com> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 10:29:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: Re: Brilliant and very useful for FreeBSD, IMHO X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 17:29:15 -0000 This was a very interesting article, theres also alot of comments about it on slashdot (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/05/2138238&mode=thread&tid=106), some things that you have to take into consideration with this article: - The user is _very_ Microsoft-centric (still running Windows 95, well..) - Apparentley the user doesn't seem to know what she is doing, she refers to a hardware upgrade as a "CPU Upgrade," and a CD-ROM as a "CD Player" - Some of the demands that are set forth in this article aren't achievable, because Microsoft isn't willing to do anything about them. All in all, take this article with a couple of grains of salt, as it is VERY biased towards Microsoft, and basically puts Linux down in the gutter, she also tried a bunch of the mainstream distros, but just different versions, and I really doubt it took her 18 months to complete this study. FreeBSD will never make the desktop market unless there are some changes made in the installation project, maybe there should be a DesktopBSD or something, but everything needs to be seemlessly intergrated, with only one option, not choosing between a bunch of different window managers and such. Also, if I want to install a FreeBSD desktop (which I did for my grandma), I dont want to have to be sitting there for 2 days installing all the "optional" ports packages making the system pretty, and functional at the same time. I hope this helps, but as I said, take this article with a VERY large grain of salt, maybe its your laughter for the weekend. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory A. Gilliss" To: Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: Brilliant and very useful for FreeBSD, IMHO > I would recommend that *everyone* read this today (Sunday) and ask your- > selves whether the current FreeBSD distro (4.x or 5.x) meets the goals > set out by this study? We've all seen the excreta of these and many other > frustrations in the list archives. Can the FreeBSD core team address > some of these issues and *market* the results to make FreeBSD a more > worthwhile upgrade path than *any* Linux distro? I patently hope so!