Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 11:01:53 -0500 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <70c87d1a-a5d1-60ed-ef75-3a363bfd4c9e@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <637eed20-1326-dabf-ac9d-fac12a9dbaa5@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <62d10000-e068-922e-23bd-f7a61e7a4e89@anatoli.ws> <ACE27C81-9437-41D6-BBD4-FA7A7B791428@kicp.uchicago.edu> <CAEC7392m%2B_AMfuLn-AgNzfWxgOFY=j_RrLaFFHtxHkeTjaR6%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> <637eed20-1326-dabf-ac9d-fac12a9dbaa5@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On 2020-06-08 10:46, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2020-06-08 09:29, Donald Wilde wrote: >> On 6/8/20, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 11:26 PM, Anatoli <me@anatoli.ws> wrote: >>>> >>>> IMO >>>> >>>> * FreeBSD: servers (performance, stability, relative security, zfs), >>>> competes directly with Linux >>>> >>>> * OpenBSD: routers/firewalls, desktops (the most secure OS >>> >>> The most secure… if you dismiss the fact that one of the developer (who >>> wrote network stack if my memory serves me) was simultaneously receiving >>> payments from one of three letter agencies for several years. >>> >> The OpenBSD crew made major contributions to the FOSS community in SSH >> and SSH components, but everybody incorporates them so they are now >> all at the same level. > > This is absolute truth for me and I appreciate that fact since forever. Not only it is absolute truth, but I too was considering OpenBSD the most secure operating system out there. Till the moment I've learned that [network stack, or was it IPsec?] programmer was receiving payments from one of 3 letter agencies some decade before it became known by everybody. Does not mean any code he wrote for OpenBSD was affected, being top programmer, he likely was doing unrelated stuff for them, but realizing that to audit the code written by top programmer is virtually impossible, I decided for myself to just shy away from OpenBSD. But everybody can arrive at their educated decisions on their own. Still with utmost respect to OpenBSD for openSSH and general ultimate security focused approach, Valeri > > Valeri > >> >> The main remaining difference is that OpenBSD doesn't turn on >> _anything_ unless you specifically ask it to. >> > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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