From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 7 01:04:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C160516A419 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A454C13C442 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.kovalenko@verizon.net) Received: from [10.0.3.231] ([70.21.165.95]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JU800FR3YH3Q6XF@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:55:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:03:16 -0500 From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-reply-to: <47815D29.2000509@conducive.net> To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E9=9F=93=E5=AE=B6=E6=A8=99?= Bill Hacker Message-id: <1199664196.899.10.camel@RabbitsDen> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <20080106141157.I105@fledge.watson.org> <47810DE3.3050106@FreeBSD.org> <478119AB.8050906@FreeBSD.org> <47814160.4050401@samsco.org> <4781541D.6070500@conducive.net> <47815D29.2000509@conducive.net> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS honesty X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:04:54 -0000 On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 22:58 +0000, 韓家標 Bill Hacker wrote: > None are perfect. But ZFS is just *too* new. And not just on *BSD. > If IBM had not already had GPFS, Sun might never even have 'invented' ZFS. Could you by any chance elaborate -- from the information available to me, I did not get an impression that ZFS is the cluster-aware filesystem or will ever be one. OTOH that's all GPFS is. > > The 'other' ones with the longest 'history' - where known-problems have knwon > avoidance/workaround, may well be XFS and JFS. Heavy-lifters iwht commercial > track-records, both. > > Not to mention UFS... > > I'm still in the practice of 'slicing' into 50 GB or so - 100GB max - no matter > *what* the drive size is. OT: As someone, who has ~10TB of compressed high-fidelity documents in production (AIX/JFS2), I can tell you that this approach will only take you so far ;) I am up to 800GB filesystems by now. > > So where's the 'beef'? > > Half-terabyte *files*? I surely hope not.. Not any better then 200 x 50GB filesystems ;) -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko