From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:44:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5124F3A9 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF05C8FC08 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.greenhost.nl ([213.108.104.138]) by smarthost1.greenhost.nl with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TiSwl-0007sD-SP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:44:44 +0100 Received: from [81.21.138.17] (helo=ronaldradial.versatec.local) by smtp.greenhost.nl with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TiSwl-00055h-OX for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:44:43 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> <201212101735.KAA02736@lariat.net> <201212102352.QAA09737@lariat.net> <20121211140043.GB20011@in-addr.com> <20121211173234.260bf5b8@suse3> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:44:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Ronald Klop" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20121211173234.260bf5b8@suse3> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.11 (Win32) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.samage.net X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: 0.8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Scan-Signature: 4052b6d1c9976086d5ab5ce040fcf5b8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:47 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:32:34 +0100, Rainer Duffner wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:18:44 -0500 > schrieb Mark Saad : > >> So what is the short summary ? From what I can see, the wiki is out >> of date again. the ISO are on the master server, and working out to >> the mirrors. FreeBSD update is still not updated. Does someone just >> need to just update the wiki with the relevant info ? > > > From my experience, it usually takes a couple of days from uploading > the ISOs to the official announcement. > > I don't think it makes sense anymore to update the wiki now. > > For the future, I also suggest not to make a timeline or a public > schedule at all. > It will stop people from making assumptions and plans for their > rollouts that more often than not just turn out to be unrealistic. > I myself actually anticipated a October/November-ish release-date when I > saw the first schedule...and even that turned out to be too optimistic. I suggest to make a timeline AND communicate what is happening _now_. Some small official statement from the release team now and then would make a large difference.