From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 27 11:40:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7569F37B414 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8RIe9N29415 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:40:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id UAA72207 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:40:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:40:09 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: David Schwartz Cc: paul@freebsd-services.com, FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010927204008.A69066@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20270000.1001605981@lobster.originative.co.uk> <20010927183337.AAA631@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010927183337.AAA631@shell.webmaster.com@whenever>; from davids@webmaster.com on Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 11:33:36AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Schwartz said on Sep 27, 2001 at 11:33:36: > >Umm, not related to my point below, but where does communism state that > >private property is "coercive"? > > I'm not sure what you mean by "where does cummunism state", communism is not > a particular book or document but an ideology. I can show you quotations from > several documents written by communists or about communism. You may not find > it in a 'sound bite'. I believe most people regard the authoritative work -- as far as the basic philosophy and ideas are concerned -- to be "The Communist Manifesto" by Marx and Engels. Beyond that (and perhaps including that), it's a matter of dispute whether communism states it or not. If Stalin stated it that doesn't mean all communists must agree with him. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message