From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 06:25:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D358F5; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14413C6; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id JAA01467; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:25:38 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1XRxp4-0000v1-6V; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:25:38 +0300 Message-ID: <54114029.3060507@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 09:24:41 +0300 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Hartland , Aristedes Maniatis , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: getting to 4K disk blocks in ZFS References: <540FF3C4.6010305@ish.com.au> <54100258.2000505@freebsd.org> <5410F0B4.9040808@ish.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 06:25:43 -0000 On 11/09/2014 04:22, Steven Hartland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aristedes Maniatis" >> Should the FreeBSD project change this minimum in the next release? >> There seems to be no downside and a huge amount of pain for people >> who stumble along with the defaults not knowing what a mess they are >> creating to solve later. > > The downside is wasted space which can be significant and hence when > I last suggested just this it was unfortunately rejected. > > We still maintain a local patch to our source tree which does just > this because, as you've mentioned, we don't want the pain so its > easier to just run everything as 4k. Another downside is 1/4th of uberblocks, 32 vs 128. Also, automatic sector size detection works great for me and I've never had a need to manually tweak ashift. -- Andriy Gapon