Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:53:07 -0700 From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, David Chisnall <theraven@theravensnest.org> Subject: Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..] Message-ID: <501ABE83.2000003@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <1DE87ACB-10FD-4B23-850E-B0C4F564AB8F@bsdimp.com> References: <CACqU3MUh1XPScRHNc-ivOYLmbG0_UqpwBNWeoPA84uSOESH_bg@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-FndCHxpTfc%2Bb5zgiX2NheaQN1LcJXBRubef4_GAYCy_pb2g@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MWo=ieaduuwZDF6SfzUUS5y1qzP5e2Ddg6Aphnz_O2PJw@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-FndCDpD3rnQFwiOSGofP9cPCxC5Zo%2BPLfxALY8pnE=2HQMA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MW2JEtDK0Ngdf_Br6D%2BVvdU1B9LmN0fm0F9=bG0f2iW4Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmomhHxG8t9Sw7de%2BzUnbz0O5GSY4ifpHFtCb9JS_zS0rBA@mail.gmail.com> <CACqU3MUKGcy8rNz0FcZLVat49BmRLD3hVKX%2BOXxkzwRDugKtAw@mail.gmail.com> <612DA8A3-121E-4E72-9E5B-F3CBA9DEB7F7@bsdimp.com> <CACqU3MU-WyNFf5UZGx15m_HWBx_6W272qkfqHHJ8G7v%2BJCK2Sw@mail.gmail.com> <FAE07410-CA99-4061-856F-799DB9D225BE@bsdimp.com> <501A0258.4010101@FreeBSD.org> <CA622462-DB69-40E4-9E1D-A4D83AEB12F8@theravensnest.org> <501AAEF2.8060202@FreeBSD.org> <1DE87ACB-10FD-4B23-850E-B0C4F564AB8F@bsdimp.com>
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On 08/02/2012 10:40, Warner Losh wrote:
> One thing to remember about the IETF. There's many vendors that devote significant resources to the IETF. While I was at Cisco, for example, I know that we provided audio and video bridges to IEFT meetings to facilitate remote attendance at the meetings. Cisco dedicated several engineers to ensure that the audio and video quality remained good during the meetings and were able to use facilities cisco normally used for things like WebEx and MeetingPlace. With a global presence and infrastructure, they were able to pull it off. I'm not aware of similar resources within the project.
I'm not suggesting we need anything at the full WebEx
audio/video/presentation/chat level. And apparently the Foundation has
money to spend on dev summits. As I suggested in a previous message,
this would be a good long-term investment that would benefit a lot of
people, especially in comparison to the money set aside for travel
grants which is now going begging.
Doug
--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what
I can do.
-- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)
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