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To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
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Subject: Re: ORBS vs MAPS 
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:36:39 +0200
From: "Chris J. Mutter" <cjm@terminal.sil.at>
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> > > 	This is affecting more people than just those that are
> > > subscribing to MAPS -- even networks that aren't subscribed to MAPS,
> > > but are peers of Above.Net, are seeing these bogus routes, and in all
> > > probability are propagating these bogus routes.
> > 
> > No, Above.Net is not propogating any bogus routes. I'm looking at all the
> > routes I'm getting from Above.Net right now, and the only one I see for ORB
S
> > is "4648 6461". 4648 is Netgate, New Zealand. This is the correct route and
> > originated at ORBS' provider.

Different situation here in austria on the main internet exchange.:

try:
http://www.vix.at/cgi-bin/lg.cgi

use the ip of www.orbs.org (202.36.147.16) with BGP and then with traceroute
and you'll see that above nets peering router (193.203.0.45) announces the
block and in the traceroute you'll get !H !H !H's after some hops. we (5424)
ignore this announcement on our borders but almost all other peering partners 
(50++) accept the announcement.

later,
cjm
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