From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Mon May 21 19:31:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7585EFCBAE for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 19:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 425106D232 for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 19:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f6-v6so27102532wmc.4 for ; Mon, 21 May 2018 12:31:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ypX58W9rku88aVrdbRCaH8SQl3jgg3g26IMg5Mcnsas=; b=QGcBn0W2AOGvyVeEBRP63U5zZXJ63R5zuFaVczEqSJ9HdjeU2kcPQAAOE8IjzpYMAD 4c7q//Jo5ADkG4QooXLweJh8nARcbUGQHCy3EeWyjUmJ3KeW9TcyCKhsyQRCfKI/c6Df 2oMJxE2EUY+iV8LnHlL/L5xTqLwqnoGdYPkIE3C33N4LzRINWGOEfGE8YOHrVqGtuXog Iqoc+PQL3UDe27qPJ/2/Z+zRHjHjeg9VW0vDM7qejQwHY1Xl+m9DiCYpH68TPLsSDiSL LiFIt8/PdLRBAYFtqQv1tZYYaumFW0wYtE8pCzwR9lpBEPik+S9LoV/KlCReJC/R/T1a FoBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ypX58W9rku88aVrdbRCaH8SQl3jgg3g26IMg5Mcnsas=; b=YKRKYYo2LdRyrWKRnGCNaW4lkzzTXCPzGDFyL9vUjGxfacw9orXBQZKLo2Et0fRE2p CJrQ6EIFx38IOaqhOf4edxoZzI3Nonv2NjXtmumPMvkJtlRwoahdnlOYcy+86zsXLi7H 9M/M4oDwBjWRAO6cWTUruvxt250RatbKZTFYH+fRq+8JvUOPwUbxqN7AqBu0Cfai096g gZmcsqyN8xKpyJd+0RZonwgiA9aSI2v5WiN7YadR6G4seJGrlN0UwScxtu/C32McqboE 9IHGW58GjlEtEh8LWurLbUnd+dSU170uHO30jflCk/PHqNKORdn1xW37K6vu1DN+gMhp ApBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwd6eZyxnkW2MTFgrtm8XwNHK9AXyUi23K1LjFaYYaXGko3KoplU IitUSjJTPexuZkCzkYwdL+pNA/8OlwI+B8zrfug= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqCWUMRTgOASA9J/Ou/MLWj7A1iK24OKyF9xKkb8eBmcZBTDSGP6k/1v1diW/T/nBsM0Lp2sUXBNgf5VNgGMXg= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e54a:: with SMTP id c71-v6mr88703wmh.55.1526931067077; Mon, 21 May 2018 12:31:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.167.137 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2018 12:30:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98aaa85f-1433-e50d-3892-3c5fbff61b85@capeaugusta.com> References: <3a5edc5c-3caa-830b-4bd9-53ff52feb8a7@freebsd.org> <98aaa85f-1433-e50d-3892-3c5fbff61b85@capeaugusta.com> From: Johannes Lundberg Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 20:30:26 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: Ian FREISLICH Cc: x11-list freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 19:31:09 -0000 On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Ian FREISLICH < ian.freislich@capeaugusta.com> wrote: > Niclas > > > On 05/18/2018 01:58 PM, Niclas Zeising wrote: > >> [ Cross posted to freebsd-current@ and freebsd-x11@. Please respect >> reply-to and send all replies to freebsd-x11@. Thanks! ] >> >> >> Hi! >> I propose that we remove the old drm2 driver (sys/dev/drm2) from >> FreeBSD. I suggest the driver is marked as deprecated in 11.x and remov= ed >> from 12.0, as was done for other drivers recently. Some background and >> rationale: >> >> The drm2 driver was the original port of a KMS driver to FreeBSD. It was >> done by Konstantin Belousov to support Intel graphics cards, and later >> extended by Jean-S=C3=A9bastien P=C3=A9dron as well as Konstantin to mat= ch what's in >> Linux 3.8. This included unstable support from Haswell, but nothing new= er >> than that. >> >> For quite some time now we have had the graphics/drm-stable-kmod and >> graphics/drm-next-kmods which provides support for modern AMD and Intel >> graphics cards. These ports, together with the linuxkpi, or lkpi, has m= ade >> it significantly easier to port and update our graphics drivers. Further= , >> these new drivers cover the same drivers as the old drm2 driver. >> >> What does the community think? Is there anyone still using the drm2 >> driver on 12-CURRENT? If so, what is preventing you from switching to t= he >> port? >> > > I'm running -CURRENT on all my systems. I have a "3rd Gen" HD Graphics > 4000 that I'm running drm-next on but I'm about to revert to drm2 because > of instabilities. Xorg spontaneously crashes, and doesn't on drm2. I als= o > have a Haswell system running drm2 which I have not tried drm-next becaus= e > SWMBO is particularly intolerant of stuff not working. > If drm-next-kmod is causing issues, please try drm-stable-kmod. (we should really rename drm-next to drm-unstable/beta..) > > I also ran drm-next successfully on a Sunrise Point-LP system with "Intel > UHD Graphics 620" because drm2 didn't support the graphics chip before > switching to linux to get the trackpad and sound working. > > I guess the situation is that your mileage may vary depending on your > system. I'm OK with installing drm2 from ports, but at this point I'm no= t > really OK with loosing drm2 at this stage because of the instability in > drm-next on my one system. > > Ian > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >