From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 29 02:15:54 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C36439D55 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 02:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (static-71-163-255-121.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.255.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CM8Dn1KL4z3yK9 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from tripel.monochrome.org (tripel.monochrome.org [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 09T2FjnK069025; Wed, 28 Oct 2020 22:15:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 22:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the "better / best " method to multi-boot different OSes natively WITHOUT VirtualBox(es) ? In-Reply-To: <20201028145646.640903ef7b37875a2b0b7347@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <20201024123148.4929fb9e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20201028073644.52fed6c6@archlinux> <20201028141745.0ad98a8d.freebsd@edvax.de> <98d2bb99-f2d0-004c-b342-05fbd891e9e0@qeng-ho.org> <40F0146B-191B-4AA8-8CE2-13D7DEC0F1FD@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20201028145646.640903ef7b37875a2b0b7347@sohara.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CM8Dn1KL4z3yK9 X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@monochrome.org has no SPF policy when checking 71.163.255.121) smtp.mailfrom=chris@monochrome.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.10)[-0.103]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.930]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[monochrome.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.20)[0.196]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:71.163.0.0/16, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 02:15:54 -0000 On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:26:33 -0500 > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> My boss almost 2 decades ago said: you buy new computer, but the >> moment you unpack it it is already obsolete. I'd even modify that statement to "the moment it's available for sale, it is already obsolete." > There are great bargains to be had among the cast-offs of those > who must have the newest. True fact. I've had excellent luck buying refurbished computers that are just off of a corporate lease, so about 3 years old. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org